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Re: Bypass Recycle Bin

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Bypass Recycle Bin
Date 2025-04-25 16:31 -0400
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On Fri, 4/25/2025 4:13 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 14:46:09 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 4/25/2025 1:39 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> What the dickens were you doing having 200,000 files to delete?
> 
>>
>> Win10  C:\Windows\servicing\LCU
>>
>> That can have 200,000 files in it, and it's a waste
>> of SearchIndexer munching time, to leave that there.
> 
> C:\Windows\servicing\LCU> *dir /a /s /u2
> 
>  Volume in drive C is OS             Serial number is 4e90:7197
> 
>     Total for:  C:\Windows\servicing\LCU\*
>      3,207,063,704 bytes in 279,787 files and 331,361 dirs
> 
> Yikes!
>  
>> That can be deleted (contents of LCU Last Cumulative Update).
>> It's up to you to decide whether that's a good tradeoff or not
>> (in case the system needs to roll back the Patch Tuesday Cumulative).
> 
> Hmm ... Microsoft's track record lately hasn't exactly been stellar. 
> And I didn't get updates this week till yesterday. I think I'll wait 
> till Sunday or Monday before deleting.
> 
> Unless ... the first-level subdirectories under LCU are dated
> 2025-03-26, 2025-04-09, and 2025-04-23. Is it safe to delete older 
> ones and leave only the most recent one in place?
> 
>> It's a waste of time defragmenting that. It's a waste of
>> time for Agent Ransack to search through there. It's a waste
>> of time letting the SearchIndexer process it. Etc.
> 
> And it's a waste of time having Macrium Reflect back it up.
> 
> Although, my HIBERFIL.SYS is 6½ GB, and that gets backed up. To 
> control that, as far as I know, I'd have to change my C: image backup 
> to a file and folder backup. Goodness knows what that would do to the 
> backup of the small recovery partitions that are automatically part 
> of the C: image backup.
> 

The "proper" cleaning procedure is apparently DISM and startcomponentcleanup
or something like that. That should remove all of them except two for April,
as a guess.

   "Run this in an elevated command prompt.
    It will remove all but the last (newest) folder in the LCU folder.

    Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
   "

I suppose that ensures that the maintenance system, knows the backup
items have been removed. Me yanking them away, maybe it never checks
that they are still present.

For the hiberfile

   powercfg /h off

and then test your backup. It should be gone then.

And for pagefile, I use Start : Run : sysdm.cpl  and adjust
the size of pagefile to be fixed (non-expandable) at 1024MB.
Sysdm.cpl looks like it did, in WinXP or so.

Removing the hiberfile can affect some features, such as
what happens when the system crashes and you really wanted
a complete image of the entire memory (that is not a default behavior
and has to be set up). It is used for hibernation.
It might even be used for Fast Start (which I don't use).

Some of my "habits", may not be appropriate for others, because
of my variations on "paving policies", when I choose to pave
something to fix it :-)

   Paul

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Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-25 18:00 +0100
  Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:28 -0400
    Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-25 18:39 +0100
      Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 14:46 -0400
        Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-25 20:16 +0100
          Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 16:11 -0400
            Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 12:10 +0100
              Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-26 08:52 -0400
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 19:05 +0100
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:38 +0000
        Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-25 13:13 -0700
          Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 16:31 -0400
            Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-26 15:02 -0700
          Re: Bypass Recycle Bin micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-25 19:23 -0400
        Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-25 19:24 -0400
          Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:50 -0400
            Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-26 08:55 -0400
              Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-26 14:43 +0000
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 19:19 +0100
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:30 +0000
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-26 15:07 -0700
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:30 -0400
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 15:43 +0000
              Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 17:12 -0400
                Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:12 -0400
  Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-25 12:51 -0700
    Re: Bypass Recycle Bin "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-25 17:58 -0400
  Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-04-25 16:13 -0400
    Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-25 13:19 -0700
      Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-04-25 18:28 -0400
      Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-25 19:27 -0400
      Re: Bypass Recycle Bin micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-25 19:28 -0400
  Re: Bypass Recycle Bin T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-25 14:08 -0700
  Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:29 -0500
    Re: Bypass Recycle Bin "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-26 10:10 +0100
    Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 16:36 -0400
      Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 22:01 +0100
        Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-26 16:38 -0500
  Re: Bypass Recycle Bin VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 22:26 -0500

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