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Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules?

From Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules?
Date 2025-02-18 08:08 +0000
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On 2025-02-18 02:08, Newyana2 wrote:
> 
>     To my mind, hibernate is just
> silly bloat. 

Each to his own, but it certainly isn't "just silly bloat", it shortens 
the time taken for me to get working in the morning considerably, both 
in the time taken to boot the PC, and the time taken to re-open all the 
12 or so programs I use every day.  I can go for a month or so 
hibernating every night and re-awakening the same session in the morning.

> My partitioning and disk image program also warns me
> that if I enable it with the boot program installed then it could
> corrupt partitions. Since I don't want any of that, I've never really
> looked into the details. Hibernate can take up A LOT of space, and
> for what? Just so that software can come back to where it was
> after leaving the computer turned off. I always close all programs
> when shutting down, anyway.

Yes, this is true, you shouldn't hibernate, or use the 'Fast Startup' 
option* in more recent versions of Windows which is based on 
hibernation, if you plan to boot other OSs on the same PC before coming 
back to the one you're in, or if you are about to image the PC or its OS 
partition; in that situation definitely you should do a complete shut down.

* As I've posted before, Windows versions since 8 have a 'Fast startup' 
feature enabled by default, whose sole purpose is to reduce boot time, 
but I have it disabled, because otherwise backing up your system disk 
using imaging software may not work properly, as I discovered when using 
Ghost for this.  The shut down state using this is akin to hibernation, 
and IME it is not safe to image a hibernated OS partition, as on restore 
this may corrupt other partitions such as data partitions, which 
logically you'd think should be unaffected.

The following page explains some of this quite well, but I don't think 
mentions the imaging problem among the reasons to turn it off, whereas 
for me it's the most important one:

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup

To disable it you need to use the legacy Vista+ Power Control Panel:
     Settings
     System
     Power and sleep
     Additional power settings (takes you to the legacy Power CP)
     Choose what the power buttons do
     Change settings that are currently unavailable
     Disable 'Turn on fast start-up'
     Save changes

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Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-17 00:39 -0700
  Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 11:06 +0000
    Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-17 12:04 -0700
      Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0500
        Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-17 15:27 -0700
          Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 21:08 -0500
            Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-18 00:37 -0700
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-18 07:46 -0500
            Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-18 08:08 +0000
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 07:51 -0500
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-18 07:59 -0500
                Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 15:06 +0000
          Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:20 -0700
            Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-18 00:42 -0700
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 10:28 -0700
          Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 02:02 -0500
  Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 08:56 -0500

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