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Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules?

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules?
Date 2025-02-17 11:06 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <vov89f.qso.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
References <voup39$12070$1@dont-email.me>

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Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> wrote:
> I remember the good old days when M$ wanted to be able to test and 
> certify any and all drivers and third part software to be used in their 
> systems. One of the tests that had to be passed was that the tested 
> software would not keep an idle computer from falling asleep.
> 
> I have noticed that the Windows 11 notification system is willing to 
> keep the system up over night asking such questions as "can we restart 
> now?". There are other examples but it seems that they can't jump a 
> decade plus old hoop to qualify as reasonable software.
> 
> Another non-sleep case occurs sometimes if you leave an uncompleted game 
> minimized. Tomorrow morning, the computer may or may not be sleeping.
> 
> I know I could turn most notifications off but most of the ones I get 
> deserve attention. Kudos to M$ for that. But it leaves me with no good 
> options really.
> 
> Am I remembering this all correctly?

  Modern computers, also on Windows 10, are not really sleeping anymore,
but are partly awake. See 'Modern Standby' [1] (and 'Adaptive hibernate'
[2]).

  You may be able to make the computer less partly awake by disabling
the 'Allow wake timers' settings in the 'Power Options' Control Panel
applet.

  If you respond, please let us know if you have a 'desktop' computer or
a laptop.

[1] 'Modern Standby vs S3'
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experience
s/modern-standby-vs-s3?>

[2] 'Adaptive Hibernate Overview'
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/power-settings/a
daptive-hibernate>

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Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-17 00:39 -0700
  Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 11:06 +0000
    Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-17 12:04 -0700
      Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0500
        Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-17 15:27 -0700
          Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 21:08 -0500
            Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-18 00:37 -0700
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-18 07:46 -0500
            Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-02-18 08:08 +0000
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 07:51 -0500
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-18 07:59 -0500
                Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 15:06 +0000
          Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:20 -0700
            Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-02-18 00:42 -0700
              Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 10:28 -0700
          Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-18 02:02 -0500
  Re: Would M$ certify Windows 11 using its own rules? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-17 08:56 -0500

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