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Re: What Office to get?

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Newyana2 wrote on 1/16/25 7:05 AM:
> On 1/16/2025 12:35 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Newyana2 wrote on 1/15/25 2:07 PM:
>>> There should be no need to buy the latest. Avoid MSO 365. Of course,
>>> there are the usual problems of cloud. But also, I was just reading
>>> that MS are warning people on Win10 that MSO 365 will go unsupported
>>> this year. 
>> MSO aka M365 is supported until 2029
> 
> https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/15/24344209/microsoft-365-office-apps-windows-10-end-of-support 
> 
> 
>     It's expected to keep running, but it will no longer be
> supported on Win10. If MS changes their server
> config to break something on Win10 (woops!) that's legit in
> accord with their announcement. No promises. It's a perfect
> example of why people should avoid cloud. The software is still
> installed locally, but it depends on the rental company being
> able to access it and accessing their server.
> 
>    So why pay rental when one can buy an older version of
> the real product for little more than a couple of months rent?
> 
>    There can also be hidden issues with rental. For example, when
> Adobe made PS rental-only they started storing files online by
> default. Anyone who didn't know to make copies in public formats
> locally would lose all their work if they ended the rental.... And of
> course, rental costs more in the long run. That's the whole point
> of rental software. These products are mature, so there's little
> incentive to buy the latest copy.

Sounds like the same old song and dance.
   The 'what if they do' fear based replies has occurred after end of 
support for Office and Windows - Office(2007-2013)supported for 10 yrs, 
Office(2016-2019) supported for 9 and 5 respectively coinciding with EOL 
for Windows 10(ten years of support).
It's no secret(an has been a given) for every single Office and Windows 
version(since Office 95 and Windows 95)...support timeline is and has 
always been finite.

  The cloud ? - Office and Windows have been cloud integrated for some 
time, beginning in 2007.
  - Office 2007 initially with SkyDrive(now OneDrive) and the optional 
Social Connector. All Office versions thereafter. Office 2013 and later 
all require a MSA sign to retain activation and use all of the products 
available features, though initial installation and activation for 
retail(perpetual version) can be accomplished using the gate-way product 
key included with the software(Gateway key authorizes the ability to 
install and activate, the real product key is stored on MSFT servers and 
used/reverified with any subsequent reinstalls(same or transfer to 
another device). If installed and activated with a MSA, the key is also 
available in the online MSA.

More on integration
- Windows since 2008 (MSFT account sign-in, OneDrive, Windows Essentials 
2008). Support for OneDrive in Win7,8.8.1 ended in 2022(14 yrs for 
Windows 7!).

Doesn't matter how many times one complains or opines(what if, etc) about 
EOS, the current perspective is the same as the past - lifecycle for 
software support has a finite end date.

Using and older Office version?
   Same condition - if past EOS, support ended on known date.
   i.e. For version 2007 to 2013, support ended; for 2016-2019 support 
ends in Oct. 2025.

What has changed(more so consistent)
  Office 2021 and Office 2024 have a five year support windows(2026, 2029 
respectively)
  - consistent with Office 2019 5+ yr EOS finite date(coincidental with 
Windows 10 EOS).


The same old song and dance, what-if scenario...and destined to be 
repeated after the release of next Office(2027) and Windows 12(? or 
whatever it's named).
  ==> and no matter how much tweaking is done locally, Windows and Office 
is still cloud connected/integrated...and that will not change and 
continue(pretty much forever when using Office or Windows)

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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