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| Started by | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| First post | 2025-01-18 20:06 +0200 |
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Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-18 20:06 +0200
Re: Searching for files D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-18 18:47 +0000
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:32 +0200
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 04:45 -0500
Re: Searching for files D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-20 13:19 +0000
Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
Re: Searching for files "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-01-20 09:29 -0600
Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 13:33 -0500
Re: Searching for files "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-01-20 14:01 -0600
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:45 -0500
Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-18 13:56 -0500
Re: Searching for files Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-01-18 19:58 +0100
Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 14:01 -0500
Re: Searching for files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-19 00:50 -0600
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:34 +0200
Re: Searching for files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-20 06:16 -0600
Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-22 19:57 -0500
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:49 -0500
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-21 03:18 +0200
Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-02-24 13:50 -0500
Re: Searching for files Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-24 22:01 +0000
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-24 18:34 -0500
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-25 05:39 +0200
Re: Searching for files GlowingBlueMist <zapbot@truely.invalid> - 2025-02-25 17:16 -0600
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-26 10:30 +0200
Re: Searching for files ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 11:49 -0700
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:39 -0500
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-26 06:02 +0200
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-26 00:32 -0500
Re: Searching for files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 14:30 -0500
Re: Searching for files Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-18 13:49 -0600
Re: Searching for files "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:39 +0100
Re: Searching for files Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-18 21:44 +0100
Re: Searching for files Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-20 03:38 +0000
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-18 18:00 -0500
Re: Searching for files Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2025-01-19 02:10 +0300
Re: Searching for files Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-01-18 18:17 -0600
Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-19 01:00 -0600
Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-20 03:22 +0000
Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-20 09:13 +0000
Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 09:00 +0200
Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-20 06:31 -0600
Re: Searching for files wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-19 09:36 +0000
Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 08:29 -0500
Re: Searching for files Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-01-19 17:48 +0100
Re: Searching for files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 11:05 +0000
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 08:43 -0500
Re: Searching for files Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-19 09:43 -0700
Re: Searching for files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 14:06 -0500
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:12 -0500
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:57 +0200
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 05:37 -0500
Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 17:50 +0200
Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 14:09 -0500
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 09:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) |
| Message-ID | <b2trojp7l7dmrmb08ovtmg3t8qtg9nfjb2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181568 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 01:00:09 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: > >> ... >> X-No-Archive: yes >> ... > >Google left Usenet back in Feb 2024, so that header became meaningless >since Google was the only Usenet provider that honored it. It has >always been pointless with other NNTP providers, NNTP clients, Usenet >archive sites, and web-based forums using NNTP-to-HTTP gateways. I was not aware of having set it as that, and had no reason to do so, as answers to the question may have benefited other users. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 06:31 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header |
| Message-ID | <436csplg4y56.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #181593 |
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652
> X-No-Archive: yes
X-No-Archive (and X-Yes-Archive) are headers added to your message by
your NNTP client, not by the server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-No-Archive
I don't use Forte Agent. Have only trialed it in the past. Back then,
I recall asking for help by posting to:
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
(the newsgroup still exists)
Perhaps it has settings to define what headers that client will add,
like a list of user-specified or custom headers, or options that
enable/disable the presence of some headers when composing new messages.
https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified.narkive.com/nByleEkp/x-no-archive
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified/c/tWUTq-jlMdk
"5.0.B A14.b) Agent now includes the x-no-archive option, it must be set
under group | default properties | post by checking the
observe no archive check box."
Possibly you're stuck with the ancient Free Agent adding that header as
the following hints custom headers was not an option back then:
https://www.loganact.com/agent/agentfaq.html#3-3-3
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| From | wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 09:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmih3h$2460s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181532 |
On 18/01/2025 18:06, Steve Hayes wrote: > Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on > long detours by Bing or CoPilot? > > I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and > then saved it. > > When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be. > > In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a > search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless > information. > > It suggested CoPilot could help, and after a long question and answer > session suggested I go to the folder where the file was and search for > it there, which was exactly where I had started -- it wasn't there, it > was somewhere else. > > Eventually I called it up in the program I'd saved it from and saved > it to a flash drive from there, but surely there must be a simpler way > to find a file. > I save lots of stuff from the internet either as web pages or to a text file (or files) using Notepad. The trick is to name the (or each) file & select where to save it to. Currently there are over 120 files in the saved files folder & a further few hundreds in My Documents. If I can't remember which file I saved the information in, Agent Ransack will find it - eventually but the more you can narrow down the search area the quicker it will be. E.G., searching for a word in 250 text files takes a couple of seconds. -- Regards wasbit
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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 08:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmium2$28c5k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181571 |
On 1/19/2025 4:36 AM, wasbit wrote: > > I save lots of stuff from the internet either as web pages or to a text > file (or files) using Notepad. > The trick is to name the (or each) file & select where to save it to. I do the exact same. I have several locations on my SendTo menu. Privacy, Security, Tech, Ideas, and programming code. Those items go to VBScripts that copy the file to 2 redundant folders on different disks. I have hundreds of saved articles in each category. Plain text is SO efficient compared to HTML or even PDF. And I read it in my choice of font face/size.
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| From | Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 17:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rqaqojtv4pvnvfjkipfse6lkvjl7abmdc5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181571 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 09:36:52 +0000, wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> wrote: >I save lots of stuff from the internet either as web pages Zotero is a one-click solution for this task and has a full-text search engine. I have over 6000 items and about 14 GB of data in my Zotero library. Regards M.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 11:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmipq2.4mg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #181532 |
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on > long detours by Bing or CoPilot? > > I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and > then saved it. > > When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be. > > In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a > search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless > information. As others have mentioned, I advise to use (voidtools) 'Everything' for searching. That said, adding to Paul's comments on the (Windows) 'Indexing Options' applet in Control Panel: I see that that applet has a 'Troubleshoot search and indexing' link at the bottom (and in another place). You might want to try that Troubleshooter to see if it can find and fix what seems to be wrong with your system. [...]
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 08:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmivi5$28kou$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181572 |
On Sun, 1/19/2025 6:05 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >> Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on >> long detours by Bing or CoPilot? >> >> I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and >> then saved it. >> >> When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be. >> >> In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a >> search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless >> information. > > As others have mentioned, I advise to use (voidtools) 'Everything' for > searching. > > That said, adding to Paul's comments on the (Windows) 'Indexing > Options' applet in Control Panel: > > I see that that applet has a 'Troubleshoot search and indexing' link > at the bottom (and in another place). You might want to try that > Troubleshooter to see if it can find and fix what seems to be wrong with > your system. > > [...] > I just blanked out the partition names. One thing that is not working currently, is the scriptable search isn't working now, so Microsoft broke something there. The search results can be a bit faster if Explorer is not creating icons for the items found. The green progress bar was replaced with a rotating progress indicator on W11, which indicates they "bite around the edges" of the source, but don't generally do too much to the core of how it works. Paul Paul
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| From | Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 09:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <msaqoj9li2tei2qqb1h8qqslvoidbujci5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181572 |
On 19 Jan 2025 11:05:42 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: >Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >> Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on >> long detours by Bing or CoPilot? >> >> I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and >> then saved it. >> >> When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be. >> >> In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a >> search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless >> information. > > As others have mentioned, I advise to use (voidtools) 'Everything' for >searching. Another vote here for Everything. I like it a lot > > That said, adding to Paul's comments on the (Windows) 'Indexing >Options' applet in Control Panel: > > I see that that applet has a 'Troubleshoot search and indexing' link >at the bottom (and in another place). You might want to try that >Troubleshooter to see if it can find and fix what seems to be wrong with >your system. > >[...]
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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 14:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmjig8$2ebt9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181577 |
>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >>> Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on >>> long detours by Bing or CoPilot? >>> >>> I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and >>> then savedd it. >>> >>> When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be. >>> >>> In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a >>> search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless >>> information. In Windows 10 you can do basically the same thing that was done in XP,.............. Open the file manager, look on the right end of the location window. ie mine currently says ThisPC> Window(C)................ There is a box that when all of, or part of a name is enter it will search the follder for thattext in then file names. My search need are minimal and the native search is adequate for my needs.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 15:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmjmbk$2fr8h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181579 |
On Sun, 1/19/2025 2:06 PM, knuttle wrote:
>
>>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on
>>>> long detours by Bing or CoPilot?
>>>>
>>>> I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and
>>>> then savedd it.
>>>>
>>>> When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be.
>>>>
>>>> In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a
>>>> search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless
>>>> information.
> In Windows 10 you can do basically the same thing that was done in XP,..............
>
> Open the file manager, look on the right end of the location window.
> ie mine currently says ThisPC> Window(C)................
> There is a box that when all of, or part of a name is enter it will search the follder for thattext in then file names.
>
> My search need are minimal and the native search is adequate for my needs.
The Windows Search (as exemplified by the upper-right corner of an Explorer window),
is context sensitive.
If you click "This PC", and then conduct a search, it searches the entire PC.
In my example picture of setting up the search index, if you enable
the index to be built for the entire PC (21 partitions in the example),
then the portion that has been mechanically indexed in advance, returns
a search result soonest.
If you click "This PC" indicating a scope of the "entire PC", and
none of it is indexed, then Explorer trundles through the file system,
and a green progress bar appears in the address area of Explorer,
indicating how far it has searched.
Thus, by not generating an index in advance, it slows the search.
Now, in your case, you may have clicked "Downloads" or "Documents"
as your search context, and the file system descent to check
those, will be faster than a whole PC search. Explorer only has
a short trundle to do, to evaluate your Downloads folder.
Originally, the Search Indexer part of the search subsystem, it
had a tick box indicating "filenames and Contents" or "Only Filenames".
The "Only Filenames" option *never worked*. The thing always
processes the internal contents of files, and especially for
file types with a "provider". Maybe .txt files have a provider,
so they can be searched globally. If it spots .eml files, it
can index the text in those. It can do a text extraction of
the PDFs (or, a commercial tool like Acrobat Reader may be helping,
but we do know that MSEdge has PDF capabilities. Each file type
needs a Provider or otherwise, the content will not be
included in the Index for later. Now that Windows has archive-lib,
it can "see into" more file types, such as .7z archives. It's
not limited to .cab and .zip any more.
If you don't do anything at all to the Search Indexer settings,
chances are its scope never exceeds the C: drive. And at first.
it will index only a tiny part of C: related to your account perhaps.
Later, when files change on disk, whether created, updated, or erased,
only the known context is tracked for what to do. If it is only
indexing Downloads for example, then if a file in Documents is
erased, the indexer doesn't particularly care to do anything,
as the filter mask puts that area off limits.
You can edit the Search Indexer values, and have the indexer consider
more of your disk drive(s). In the example picture I provided, is
my setup that preserves my older files. Maybe 7TB worth of files
in 21 partitions. I entered all 21 partitions (their names are
masked off in the picture and only the first letter of each
volume name is visible in the picture).
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/g0xFD166/windows-indexing-options.gif
When I first set this up, it hardly worked properly at all. I
set it up as a test mainly. Today, after resetting it and having
it regenerating the database a half a dozen times, it performs
reasonably well. It can take 3 to 60 seconds for a search
of the entire machine to complete. Having it set up, means
it does not matter what context I select, whether it is just
the Downloads folder, or it is all 21 partitions of "This PC".
I can have any scope I want, with minimal interference.
By nominating a working directory (TEMP) and excluding it from
the index, as files are added to that TEMP folder, the Search Indexer
ignores those. Thus, the index is always up to date with regard
to my contribution to the behavior of the machine. If it does
Windows Update, some files in those kinds of trees, may get
added or subtracted from the database.
Hardly anybody uses this, and I use it on my Archive Machine to
save time.
I suspect File Locator Pro (the commercial side of Agent Ransack),
may have an Inverted Index as well, but I haven't tested that,
and I don't know if anyone here runs File Locator Pro so we can ask.
Paul
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 08:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <0bsrojpei3v7lkvhrl8onc92qi7cqce0ci@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181579 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:06:48 -0500, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote: >>>> Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on >>>> long detours by Bing or CoPilot? >>>> >>>> I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and >>>> then savedd it. >>>> >>>> When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be. >>>> >>>> In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a >>>> search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless >>>> information. >In Windows 10 you can do basically the same thing that was done in >XP,.............. > >Open the file manager, look on the right end of the location window. >ie mine currently says ThisPC> Window(C)................ >There is a box that when all of, or part of a name is enter it will >search the follder for thattext in then file names. That's exactly what CoPilot told me, after 10 Questions and answers. But if I knew which folder it was in, I wouldn't be searching for the file. Win XP and Win 7 search box would give me a list of files with similar names. Win 10 doesn't, it just takes me to bloody Bing or CoPilot, neither of which can tell me what I want to know. So what I want top known is if there is any way I can get the search box on Windows 10 to search for files on my disk and not give me theb runaround. Thanks to all those who have recommended 3rd-party utilities (they are utilities, not apps) like Agent Ransack and Everything. I suppose I may have to use them to work around the reduced functionality of Windows 10 and 11. Though I managed to open the editor, and save the file to a location I specified, I still don't know where the original file is. I now want to delete it from wherever it is. >My search need are minimal and the native search is adequate for my needs. > -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 05:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vml91d$32c0s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181592 |
On Mon, 1/20/2025 1:57 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 14:06:48 -0500, knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>> Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>> Is there a way to search for files in Win 10 without being taken on
>>>>> long detours by Bing or CoPilot?
>>>>>
>>>>> I collected a lot of text from the web intio a dile for research, and
>>>>> then savedd it.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I wanted to copy it, it wasn't where I expected it to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Win XP or 7 I can just enter all or part of the file name into a
>>>>> search box, and it is found. But in Win 10, but comes Big with useless
>>>>> information.
>> In Windows 10 you can do basically the same thing that was done in
>> XP,..............
>>
>> Open the file manager, look on the right end of the location window.
>> ie mine currently says ThisPC> Window(C)................
>> There is a box that when all of, or part of a name is enter it will
>> search the follder for thattext in then file names.
>
> That's exactly what CoPilot told me, after 10 Questions and answers.
>
> But if I knew which folder it was in, I wouldn't be searching for the
> file. Win XP and Win 7 search box would give me a list of files with
> similar names. Win 10 doesn't, it just takes me to bloody Bing or
> CoPilot, neither of which can tell me what I want to know.
>
> So what I want top known is if there is any way I can get the search
> box on Windows 10 to search for files on my disk and not give me theb
> runaround.
>
> Thanks to all those who have recommended 3rd-party utilities (they are
> utilities, not apps) like Agent Ransack and Everything. I suppose I
> may have to use them to work around the reduced functionality of
> Windows 10 and 11.
>
> Though I managed to open the editor, and save the file to a location I
> specified, I still don't know where the original file is. I now want
> to delete it from wherever it is.
>
You should have used the File Explorer search box.
For example, if using the Start : Run box or using the Command Prompt window:
<prompt> explorer.exe %userprofile%\Downloads
starts a File Explorer window, and points to your Downloads folder.
Now, go to the upper right corner and enter your search.
[Picture]
https://i.postimg.cc/hvGfhzTF/File-Explorer-Search-W10.gif
Paul
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| From | Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 17:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <31ssojld40igk6eqnkkhp0nb2rl6i0eh97@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #181597 |
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 05:37:33 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >> That's exactly what CoPilot told me, after 10 Questions and answers. >> >> But if I knew which folder it was in, I wouldn't be searching for the >> file. Win XP and Win 7 search box would give me a list of files with >> similar names. Win 10 doesn't, it just takes me to bloody Bing or >> CoPilot, neither of which can tell me what I want to know. >> >> So what I want top known is if there is any way I can get the search >> box on Windows 10 to search for files on my disk and not give me theb >> runaround. >> >> Thanks to all those who have recommended 3rd-party utilities (they are >> utilities, not apps) like Agent Ransack and Everything. I suppose I >> may have to use them to work around the reduced functionality of >> Windows 10 and 11. >> >> Though I managed to open the editor, and save the file to a location I >> specified, I still don't know where the original file is. I now want >> to delete it from wherever it is. >> > >You should have used the File Explorer search box. > >For example, if using the Start : Run box or using the Command Prompt window: > ><prompt> explorer.exe %userprofile%\Downloads > >starts a File Explorer window, and points to your Downloads folder. >Now, go to the upper right corner and enter your search. But what if the file isn't in my Downloads folder? What if I want it to search all partitions and subdirectories on my hard drive? The old Win XP and Win 7 search box would do that. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 14:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vmm70h$3c691$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #181610 |
On Mon, 1/20/2025 10:50 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
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> But what if the file isn't in my Downloads folder?
>
> What if I want it to search all partitions and subdirectories on my
> hard drive?
>
> The old Win XP and Win 7 search box would do that.
The brute force search that File Explorer does, is too slow
compared to Agent Ransack.
I have two OSes loaded on the Test Machine, one has the Search Indexer
properly configured, the other does not. Let's compare their search time.
filename:*
Win7 Federated: 27 seconds, 1278597 items returned to File Explorer window
Win7 Agent Ransack: 53 seconds, 1259155 items returned in agent Ransack window
Win10 Brute Force: 111 seconds, 507896 items returned to File Explorer window
In the last search, I'm not sure why it stubbornly refuses to go past 507896.
There appears to be more than enough memory available on the machine. As the File explorer
search progresses (stopped at 507896 but still scanning) the memory consumed
is still increasing. It is not like there is a memory cap affecting the
result.
Paul
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