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Win10 -> 11 upgrade path?

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  Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 21:42 +0000
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:45 -0500
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 07:00 +0000
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-01-15 07:56 +0000
          Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:12 -0700
            Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:54 -0700
            Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:10 +0000
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:30 -0500
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:54 -0600
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Windows 11 24H2 User <fvgtgfrf@juiklopjhy.com> - 2025-01-13 22:40 +0000
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2025-01-14 00:41 +0000
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 03:52 -0700
          Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2025-01-14 12:05 +0000
            Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 12:39 -0700
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 07:00 +0000
    Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-13 19:45 -0500
      Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 19:09 -0600
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-13 22:48 -0500
          Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 03:28 -0700
            Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-14 08:43 -0500
              Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:28 -0700
        Re: Win10 -> 11 upgrade path? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-14 10:05 -0700

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#181378

Newyana2 wrote on 1/14/25 6:43 AM:
> On 1/14/2025 5:28 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> 
>> Yes, as you've found there are tweaks/utilities for the QL Bar on Win11.
>>
>> QL demise/deperecation reasons
>>   - Old Vista era code retained in Win10 for backward compatibility
>>   - Based on integration with IE bits(also deprecated in Win11 even 
>> though Edge still supports limited IE mode).
>>
> 
>    That makes some sense in theory. I can see how they'd think
> it was "progress" to remove more of IE. 

As we all know, the theory behind what MSFT thinks/does/ is a mixture of 
variation - deprecation, testing in the consumer market, cost 
reduction(expense, labor, support), nomenclature, internal politics(power 
- development vs. marketing),  etc.  The latter - impacting mearly 
everything in the released product since Windows 8.0.
  - i.e. questioning why in the consumer arena has been reasonably the 
same for years => futile exercise and knowing that answers to those 
questions are slim to negligible.






-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#181345

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 19:09:36 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 1/13/2025 4:42 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> So 2025 will be win10 upgrade year, so what's the cheapest/simplest 
>>> upgrade
>>> path for hardware and software?
>>>
>>> I have a home desktop PC based around a Coffee Lake i3 which isn't win11
>>> compatible. It's not often used, but I don't want to get rid of it so
>>> what's the sweet spot cpu/mobo these days? I'd like to keep the RAM,
>>> SSD/NVMe, PSU, etc.
>>>
>>> Can I transfer my win10 pro license key to win11? What do I lose if just
>>> use an unlicensed version of windows?
>>>
>> 
>> I did what Win11 24H2 user did, except that no command line
>> is required. Just mount to ISO and run setup.exe. Stay offline.
>> Choose an update. It worked fine for me, despite TPM2 being
>> disabled. Worth a try.
>> 
>>    If you're the type who religiously updates then it might make
>> sense for you. I just did it out of curiosity, to see how salvageable
>> Win11 is. It's not too bad. I cleaned it up, removed Edge, installed
>> Classic Shell... Compared to Win10 there are just a few glitches
>> so far: The taskbar is a mess and it was hard to get quicklaunch
>> back. My utility to customize folders doesn't seem to be working.
>> 
>>    In general, MS have broken a few things, but basically it's just
>> Win10. They just picked a version and decided to start calling it
>> 11, in order to force people to accept their crap. But Copilot
>> and the Apps are now gone on my system, with no problems.
>> 
>
>It does take a while to pick through all the settings to adjust things 
>to a sane choice, and turn off advertizing and rediculous "helpfull" 
>stuff. Also need to cull rubbish programs you don't need or want.
>
>There are several programs that can address the screwed up taskbar, so 
>maybe you can find one you like.
>
>And you're right, it's basically win 10 under the hood. They just added 
>a lot of crapware, then renamed everything and moved everything around, 
>but once you've gone through it, you'll realize  ... It's just win 10 
>with a different color lipstick.


Yes, I agree. With Microsoft Windows as well as with other vendors and
software products, they always have a choice between releasing changes
with a new version number or as an update to the existing version. 

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