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| Started by | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| First post | 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200 |
| Last post | 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200 |
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Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 16:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 10:28 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 18:19 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:33 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-08-01 13:49 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-01 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection NY <me@privacy.net> - 2025-08-02 16:29 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:26 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:45 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:58 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:35 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 16:43 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:47 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:02 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:13 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:41 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:49 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 12:06 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-01 20:54 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-01 15:26 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-06 15:58 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:41 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-06 12:35 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 17:32 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-02 12:15 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 15:46 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:30 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-02 18:32 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 19:53 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-02 17:53 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-03 19:43 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-03 20:41 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-04 11:55 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-04 23:22 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-05 20:24 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:10 -0700
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:37 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-02 15:54 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-02 16:40 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-02 19:56 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-03 20:36 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-03 18:11 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:34 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-04 14:06 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 08:59 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-03 21:07 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-04 11:24 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-04 10:50 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:01 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-07 11:39 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:19 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-08-04 16:25 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-06 09:03 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:55 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-08-06 21:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:22 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-07 15:20 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-08-08 11:44 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-09 12:59 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-09 13:17 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 18:01 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 18:12 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-10 19:33 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-10 19:08 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:46 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:07 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:19 -0500
OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:36 +0100
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 11:06 +0200
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0100
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 13:36 +0200
Re: OT: Microsoft product (and service) naming Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-10-20 12:36 +0000
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:42 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-11 09:44 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 14:09 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 08:53 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 15:53 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 13:03 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-11 19:31 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:11 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 02:00 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> - 2025-10-19 23:36 -0700
OT: ageing (was: Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-10-20 08:45 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:20 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 12:35 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 14:16 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-12 21:11 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 17:24 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-08-13 05:10 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-12 15:29 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-08-11 22:40 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:06 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:35 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-12 09:01 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-12 13:23 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 03:45 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:28 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 17:09 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:27 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-11 21:03 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-11 20:39 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-12 07:49 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> - 2025-08-13 09:26 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-13 12:13 +0100
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-13 18:33 +0200
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-08-13 12:52 -0500
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2025-08-14 08:22 -0400
Re: Alternative for remote desktop connection Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 21:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg47aaF7e97U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186694 |
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 20:35:18 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > With your setup, you are using their rendezvous server to connect the > endpoint hosts. Self-hosted servers means you create your own > rendezvous server. Upon first reading, I thought Rustdesk required you > to setup your own self-host server simply because they didn't make it > obvious they had publicly accessible rendezvous servers (well, I only > found one, and it appears they have a problem with the ever increasing > workload on their "demo" server). They refer to this site for a free server: <https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-oss/> I'm not so familiar with Docker (it's something like VM?), but I'm wondering: if I were to create my own server with Docker and run that on Windows while I connect to the other party, would that work? Probably have to do some portforwarding... -- s|b
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 17:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <wagwjajwe679$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186746 |
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: > VanguardLH wrote: > >> With your setup, you are using their rendezvous server to connect the >> endpoint hosts. Self-hosted servers means you create your own >> rendezvous server. Upon first reading, I thought Rustdesk required you >> to setup your own self-host server simply because they didn't make it >> obvious they had publicly accessible rendezvous servers (well, I only >> found one, and it appears they have a problem with the ever increasing >> workload on their "demo" server). > > They refer to this site for a free server: > <https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-oss/> That is a free *self-host* server that you setup, run, maintain, and secure. Most users don't want to bother with all that, so, to be similar to TeamViewer, they operate a public rendezvous server, so users just use the their client on each endpoint host. If you are familiar with installing and configuring a VNC server, along with punching holes in firewalls, defining port forwarding rules, and using DDNS if your endpoint hosts don't get static IP addresses, then you have the wherewithall to figure out how to use Rustdesk's self-hosted rendezvous server. Think of someone asking how to view image files. They could use Irfanview, XnView, FastStone, etc. They weren't asking how to edit image files using Paint.NET, GIMP, Photoshop, etc. They don't need nor want a plethora of features they won't use. They want quick and easy viewing only.
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-14 13:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg5vgvFg9scU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186749 |
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 17:09:29 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > If you are familiar with installing and configuring a VNC server, along > with punching holes in firewalls, defining port forwarding rules, and > using DDNS if your endpoint hosts don't get static IP addresses, then > you have the wherewithall to figure out how to use Rustdesk's > self-hosted rendezvous server. > > Think of someone asking how to view image files. They could use > Irfanview, XnView, FastStone, etc. They weren't asking how to edit > image files using Paint.NET, GIMP, Photoshop, etc. They don't need nor > want a plethora of features they won't use. They want quick and easy > viewing only. Doesn't matter if I'm the one viewing. If I can set up the server and other settings like portforwarding, then I could use my own server instead of trusting a third party server. Also, RustDesk claims using your own server is faster. -- s|b
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-11 21:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mfut3mFaoijU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186663 |
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:53:03 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > Teamviewer supplies their own servers. No setup by you. Rustdesk has > you setup a self-hosted server just like you have to setup a VNC server. I saw a YouTube vid about that days ago and IIRC you can choose: either you use their servers or you set one up yourself. All I know is it works the same as TeamViewer. There's no setting up a server. You download the portable EXE and run it. The other party does the same and provides an ID and password, so you can connect with it. -- s|b
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-11 20:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rsnwrt9usd91.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186673 |
s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:53:03 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: > >> Teamviewer supplies their own servers. No setup by you. Rustdesk has >> you setup a self-hosted server just like you have to setup a VNC server. > > I saw a YouTube vid about that days ago and IIRC you can choose: either > you use their servers or you set one up yourself. All I know is it works > the same as TeamViewer. There's no setting up a server. You download the > portable EXE and run it. The other party does the same and provides an > ID and password, so you can connect with it. Yep, through their public rendezvous server. Neither client specifies the IP address of the other endpoint host. The server takes care of getting the IP addresses for the endpoint hosts, because each had to connect to the server, and TCP mandates a host getting a connection know the IP address of the host connecting to it. The ID is recorded at the server, so it know which connection from which host to join to a connection from the other host. You are not directly connecting between the endpoint hosts. They connect to the server, the server facilitates the handshaking between the endpoints, and then the server is out of the circuit while the endpoints talk directly to each other. Even in your simple Rustdesk (or Teamviewer) setup, you are still using a server.
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| From | rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-12 07:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <107f9p0$37vul$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186658 |
On 8/11/2025 9:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/8/10 19:42:45, s|b wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:20:49 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> >>> I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. It didn't work with the >>> two wifi W11 laptops. >> >> I've tried RustDesk a few days ago and found it more responsive than >> TeamViewer. I'm not sure, but I think you can set it up, so the ID and >> password of the guest devices (server) stay the same. You can create a >> list of favourites and you can 'discover peers' which I think is >> searching for clients/guests within the home network. >> >> I'm using the portable version, but it can also be installed for better >> results. I'll be advising family and friends to use RustDesk instead of >> TeamViewer. >> > Is RustDesk free? Or free-for-personal-use (but has a commercial > version, so there's the same danger of being cut of because they think > you're commercial as can happen with TeamViewer?) > I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: Windows 10 (fully up to date) Windows 11 (fully up to date) Anduin Linux(fully up to date) Arch Linux (fully up to date) Fedora 41 (fully up to date) Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (fully up to date) Ubuntu 25.04 LTS (fully up to date) Ubuntu 2510 LTS (fully up to date) Mint 21-3 (fully up to date) Mint 22 (fully up to date) nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only use it on my home lan: no internet access even though they support it. YMMV but it works perfectly for my use case and I haven't found any 'edge' cases. Richard
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| From | wasbit <wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 09:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107hi74$3piu9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186708 |
On 12/08/2025 12:49, rsutton wrote: > On 8/11/2025 9:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2025/8/10 19:42:45, s|b wrote: >>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:20:49 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>> >>>> I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. It didn't work with the >>>> two wifi W11 laptops. >>> >>> I've tried RustDesk a few days ago and found it more responsive than >>> TeamViewer. I'm not sure, but I think you can set it up, so the ID and >>> password of the guest devices (server) stay the same. You can create a >>> list of favourites and you can 'discover peers' which I think is >>> searching for clients/guests within the home network. >>> >>> I'm using the portable version, but it can also be installed for better >>> results. I'll be advising family and friends to use RustDesk instead of >>> TeamViewer. >>> >> Is RustDesk free? Or free-for-personal-use (but has a commercial >> version, so there's the same danger of being cut of because they think >> you're commercial as can happen with TeamViewer?) >> > > I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: > Windows 10 (fully up to date) > Windows 11 (fully up to date) > Anduin Linux(fully up to date) > Arch Linux (fully up to date) > Fedora 41 (fully up to date) > Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (fully up to date) > Ubuntu 25.04 LTS (fully up to date) > Ubuntu 2510 LTS (fully up to date) > Mint 21-3 (fully up to date) > Mint 22 (fully up to date) > > nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only use > it on my home lan: no internet access even though they support it. YMMV > but it works perfectly for my use case and I haven't found any 'edge' > cases. > Richard Presumably - https://www.nomachine.com/ -- Regards wasbit
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 11:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg34qiF1qouU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186738 |
On 13/08/2025 10:26, wasbit wrote: > On 12/08/2025 12:49, rsutton wrote: >> On 8/11/2025 9:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> On 2025/8/10 19:42:45, s|b wrote: >>>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:20:49 +0200, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>>> >>>>> I now use TightVNC for the two local W10 pc's. It didn't work with the >>>>> two wifi W11 laptops. >>>> >>>> I've tried RustDesk a few days ago and found it more responsive than >>>> TeamViewer. I'm not sure, but I think you can set it up, so the ID and >>>> password of the guest devices (server) stay the same. You can create a >>>> list of favourites and you can 'discover peers' which I think is >>>> searching for clients/guests within the home network. >>>> >>>> I'm using the portable version, but it can also be installed for better >>>> results. I'll be advising family and friends to use RustDesk instead of >>>> TeamViewer. >>>> >>> Is RustDesk free? Or free-for-personal-use (but has a commercial >>> version, so there's the same danger of being cut of because they think >>> you're commercial as can happen with TeamViewer?) >>> >> >> I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: >> Windows 10 (fully up to date) >> Windows 11 (fully up to date) >> Anduin Linux(fully up to date) >> Arch Linux (fully up to date) >> Fedora 41 (fully up to date) >> Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (fully up to date) >> Ubuntu 25.04 LTS (fully up to date) >> Ubuntu 2510 LTS (fully up to date) >> Mint 21-3 (fully up to date) >> Mint 22 (fully up to date) >> >> nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only use >> it on my home lan: no internet access even though they support it. >> YMMV but it works perfectly for my use case and I haven't found any >> 'edge' cases. >> Richard > > Presumably > - https://www.nomachine.com/ > > I've just downloaded it. I'm gonna have a look at it. Fokke
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 12:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107hs0d$3ldm9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186739 |
On 2025/8/13 10:39:30, Fokke Nauta wrote: > On 13/08/2025 10:26, wasbit wrote: >> On 12/08/2025 12:49, rsutton wrote: [] >>> I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: [] >>> nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only use [] >> Presumably >> - https://www.nomachine.com/ >> >> > > I've just downloaded it. I'm gonna have a look at it. > > Fokke Please tell us how usable/reliable/whatever you find it. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Everyone learns from science. It all depends how you use the knowledge. - "Gil Grissom" (CSI).
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 18:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg3t2sF5o08U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186741 |
On 13/08/2025 13:13, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/8/13 10:39:30, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> On 13/08/2025 10:26, wasbit wrote: >>> On 12/08/2025 12:49, rsutton wrote: > > [] > >>>> I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: > > [] > >>>> nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only use > > [] > >>> Presumably >>> - https://www.nomachine.com/ >>> >>> >> >> I've just downloaded it. I'm gonna have a look at it. >> >> Fokke > > Please tell us how usable/reliable/whatever you find it. I have installed it on a W10 Pro pc. I would advice not to use it. It's not user friendly, and it doesn't work with a client and a server, as other VNC programs work. It has its own network. I didn't like it and didn't go any further. I uninstalled it. Fokke
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-08-13 12:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ehm6n1y55bec$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #186742 |
Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote: > I have installed it on a W10 Pro pc. > I would advice not to use it. It's not user friendly, and it doesn't > work with a client and a server, as other VNC programs work. It has its > own network. I didn't like it and didn't go any further. > I uninstalled it. From what I read at its web site, to get on the network means you publish your host there, so anyone can find it. Not just you. That would immediately cause a flurry of activity by me if I tried it to ensure my hosts were VERY secure from outsiders. Their "network" does the DDNS work that I mentioned with VNC setups, but I don't like publishing my host(s) to others. Perhaps their "network" where you publish your hosts is secure enough, but I didn't delve into it since I won't be using it. https://www.nomachine.com/network Hopefully they worked out how you use their network to find your hosts (similar to DDNS) without exposing them to attack by others.
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| From | rsutton <rsutton43@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-14 08:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <107kke9$fina$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186742 |
On 8/13/2025 12:33 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote: > On 13/08/2025 13:13, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2025/8/13 10:39:30, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>> On 13/08/2025 10:26, wasbit wrote: >>>> On 12/08/2025 12:49, rsutton wrote: >> >> [] >> >>>>> I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: >> >> [] >> >>>>> nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only use >> >> [] >> >>>> Presumably >>>> - https://www.nomachine.com/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I've just downloaded it. I'm gonna have a look at it. >>> >>> Fokke >> >> Please tell us how usable/reliable/whatever you find it. > > I have installed it on a W10 Pro pc. > I would advice not to use it. It's not user friendly, and it doesn't > work with a client and a server, as other VNC programs work. It has its > own network. I didn't like it and didn't go any further. > I uninstalled it. > > Fokke Fokke, You don't have to use their 'network' if you confine it to just your lan. That's what I do. I don't allow these company servers to have my info, either. I just use it as a more reliable program that runs equally well on my linux desktops on my lan. I don't remember if you needed remote internet access. Richard
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| From | Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> |
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| Date | 2025-08-14 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mg68g3Fhm1aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #186766 |
On 14/08/2025 14:22, rsutton wrote: > On 8/13/2025 12:33 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote: >> On 13/08/2025 13:13, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> On 2025/8/13 10:39:30, Fokke Nauta wrote: >>>> On 13/08/2025 10:26, wasbit wrote: >>>>> On 12/08/2025 12:49, rsutton wrote: >>> >>> [] >>> >>>>>> I have recently switched to free nomachine for all my systems: >>> >>> [] >>> >>>>>> nomachine was easy to install and has given me no problems. I only >>>>>> use >>> >>> [] >>> >>>>> Presumably >>>>> - https://www.nomachine.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I've just downloaded it. I'm gonna have a look at it. >>>> >>>> Fokke >>> >>> Please tell us how usable/reliable/whatever you find it. >> >> I have installed it on a W10 Pro pc. >> I would advice not to use it. It's not user friendly, and it doesn't >> work with a client and a server, as other VNC programs work. It has >> its own network. I didn't like it and didn't go any further. >> I uninstalled it. >> >> Fokke > > Fokke, > You don't have to use their 'network' if you confine it to just your > lan. That's what I do. I don't allow these company servers to have my > info, either. I just use it as a more reliable program that runs > equally well on my linux desktops on my lan. I don't remember if you > needed remote internet access. > Richard Hi Richard, Well, I don't need NoMachine anyway. Just tried it. I use VNCViewer for my both W10 pc's and RealVNC for two W11 wifi laptops. It all works well. Fokke
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