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| Started by | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| First post | 2025-03-29 01:32 -0400 |
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MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 01:32 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-03-29 13:50 +0100
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 16:09 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 09:07 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 16:08 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 19:38 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 21:42 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 22:57 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 09:20 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 10:39 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-30 02:08 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 07:43 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 10:11 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 13:18 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 13:44 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-30 18:38 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 08:29 +0100
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-31 08:23 +0000
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 04:46 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 10:08 +0100
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-31 21:15 +1100
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 09:28 -0400
Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 11:10 -0400
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-03-31 21:15 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk |
| Message-ID | <vsdq0g$tbd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #183102 |
On 31/03/2025 8:08 pm, Graham J wrote: > Paul wrote: >> On Mon, 3/31/2025 4:23 AM, Andy Burns wrote: >>> Graham J wrote: >>> >>>> Here in the UK PSTN was supposed to be shut down by the end of >>>> 2025. I think it's been postponed. >>> >>> Now reprieved until end Jan 2027 >> >> Let's hope the engineering of this change is first rate. >> >> Is the replacement scheme, organized in any way ??? >> Who is in charge ? > > In the UK the telephone service is a nationalised entity called BT Group > PLC (was British Telecom) which owns Openreach, which in turn owns the > infrastructure, see: > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openreach> > > Openreach sells the use of its copper pairs to ISPs (of which BT is one) > to carry broadband services. These copper pairs run from the customer > premises to the exchange (or an intermediate cabinet for FTTC). The > PSTN is analog over these lines, and is digital thereafter. The > analog/copper part is old, unreliable, and high maintenance. It is > completely unsuited to supporting a broadband service. So Openreach > want rid of it. Openreach makes some money from carrying phone calls, > and some from carrying broadband services. The phone service is seen as > a Universal Service Obligation but there is no such requirement for > broadband. > > Openreach and other entities are installing fibre. There appears to be > no co-ordination or organisation in this: where a competing supplier > installs fibre Openreach rushes to catch up. Some areas are well > served, others not at all. > > NOBODY is in charge! > Some time ago (10 years, maybe .... No, 16 years even, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network ), the Australian Government proposed their 'National Broadband Network' (NBN) upgrade of the Fixed Telephone System .... Fibre to the Cabinet in the street, Wire to the Premises .... unless the Premises Owner wanted to pay the extra Bucks to get Fibre to the Building. Note ... Properties in Outback Australia got Satellite systems as part of the upgrade. -- Daniel70
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 09:28 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk |
| Message-ID | <rahiujlk618boir7o8d0d6p175f0buiajl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #183075 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 02:08:14 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >On Sat, 3/29/2025 9:42 PM, micky wrote: .... >> OT, I tried to call Social Security's 24/7 number tonight, at their 800 >> number, to find out from their computer how much they paid me to include >> in my tax 1090. I kept getting someone who want to give me free a >> medicalert one wears around his neck to call for help. It said to press >> 1 for that but I never pressed 1, I noticed a year ago that with a >> Verizon FIOS phone line -- I guesss this is VOIP? -- I don't have to >> dial the 1 to get long distance, like with a cell phone iirc, so tonight >> I added the 1 again and got SSA, an entirely different number. >> >> Most of the numbers I've called withough have not been 800, but I think >> some have. Has someone bribed Verizon or is this normal? >> >> The recording say if you don't press 1 to hear about the medicalert, >> you'll get other options, and then when it replies like you did press 1, >> it says it's sending you to other options, and then immediartely gives a >> busy signal. > >What kind of phone device is this ? >Is there an ATA with an RJ11 on it ? What's an ATA? Yes, it has a standard modular phone plug, that plugs into the first of two Verizon FIOS fiberoptic boxes (the second box in sequence is the router. > >My VOIP, you pick up the phone and there is dial tone. Yes. > >You can log into the ATA and check the settings on mine. >There would normally be one IP address for the VOIP server >and one IP address for firmware updates, stored in two >settings boxes in the web page the ATA presents. > >If you're the person who set it up, you would have written >down what IP the ATA appears at. The ATA has an Ethernet >connection. > > http://192.168.1.1 # Not likely, but an example > >ATA boxes can be locked or unlocked. On the locked one, your >password may give you access to some very basic information. >The unlocked one, there are a ton of settings related to >telephone service, and up to eight different CODECs for >voice quality. > >There wouldn't normally be garbage on the line. It should >just have dial tone. The sounds it makes, are emulations >of a real phone. It has a ringer voltage to ring the handset. >It should make the reorder tone, if you leave the handset off hock. You can barely hear the noise when you leave the handset off the hook. Before FIOS, you could hear it a little bit, but when I lived in Chicago in the 60's, and maybe NYC in the 70's, if you left the handset off the hook you could easily hear it in the next room. That was a lot better. >That sort of thing. And it should have dialtone. Any ordinary >phone (your old POTS phone) should connect to the RJ11. Maybe Yes, it's a regular phone. >pins 3 and 4 on the RJ11 have signal (equiv of "Line 1", the same >wires the POTS wiring would have used) . > >On a Google, I got this as an example of a separate ATA box. >The VOIP can also be an RJ11 or two RJ11 on the side of a >modem/router or just on the router. Grandstream is a company >that makes ATA boxes. > > https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/analog-telephone-adapter > >You can actually set up an ATA to dump a session log to one >of your home computers. If you wanted some idea of what it >was doing, that's the closest I could get you, to some >information. You should see the ATA box logging into the >provider IP, after it has been power cycled or "rebooted". >The web page for the ATA should have a reboot button. > >SYSLOG server 129.168.123.23 # A home computer on your LAN >SYSLOG level Debug/Info/Warning/Error/None >Send SIP Log No/Yes > > Paul Sorry. Probably don't have time to look for the log.
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-29 11:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <863gujtpul55c5tsuh34p29oob65bv348l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #183062 |
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 29 Mar 2025 01:32:26 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote: > >Sorry that I didn't reply earlier to posts in the > MS Shadow Copy service >thread, above, but something else took my time. I have written 4 >replies there in the last couple days These first 4 lines only applied to the win11 group. I added win10 to the post after I wrote the rest of it.. Very sorry if I wasted your time looking for this thread. I had a problem copying and moving that seems to have disappeared. You can read about it on the win11 group.
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