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Re: How do I find a power adapter spec for an old Hyundai laptop?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, alt.comp.os.windows-10, sci.electronics.repair
Subject Re: How do I find a power adapter spec for an old Hyundai laptop?
Date 2025-05-08 08:28 -0400
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On Thu, 5/8/2025 1:13 AM, micky wrote:
> In sci.electronics.repair, on Wed, 7 May 2025 01:35:43 -0400, Umberto
> <canaliumberto@impresatrecolli.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 04/05/2025 14:51, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>>> Aren't they usually around 20 volts?
>>>>
>>>> The only recent laptop I've had that used 12V was the Asus netbook.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can do VCore power conversion, off the +5V rail.
>>
>> I am sorry for not responding sooner but I had to help someone who was
>> sick. Here are front and back pictures of the laptop in question.
>> https://i.postimg.cc/rySRMrvs/hyundai-a.jpg
>> https://i.postimg.cc/zvJzJVgH/hyundai-b.jpg
>> https://i.postimg.cc/KYSyG1Xc/hyundai-c.jpg
>> https://i.postimg.cc/RVpSBCVq/hyundai-d.jpg
> 
> Look at the ratio of screen height to width.  So now I repeat my
> question: Does Hy un Dri make a modern laptop? 

First of all, for reference, this is a "real" Hyundai laptop.
This isn't 16:9, this is 1:1 the way a South Korean likes it :-)
They could sell this in their domestic market. What this is missing
is the "pencil tray" which is supposed to be near the bottom of the
monitor panel area.

   https://www.ebay.com/itm/135022599108

and that gives us this. The real (korean) company, before they sold the name.
The domain seems to have been squatted *twice* since this time :-) Amazing.

   https://web.archive.org/web/19970730171321/http://www.hei.co.kr/businessE/pc.html

It's a wonder they could sell the trade name seventeen years later and make money off it.

*******

You get the aspect ratio from the pictures.

https://i.postimg.cc/rySRMrvs/hyundai-a.jpg      # 13.75 wide chassis
https://i.postimg.cc/zvJzJVgH/hyundai-b.jpg      # 13.8 diagonal on screen
https://i.postimg.cc/KYSyG1Xc/hyundai-c.jpg      # 802.11N Wifi dongle on side of unit
https://i.postimg.cc/RVpSBCVq/hyundai-d.jpg      # 8.8 tall chassis, Two seven-slot vents on bottom
https://i.postimg.cc/j27y7YjV/hyundai-e.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/4Ng4zRLJ/hyundai-f.jpg      # Shows ports

16:9 would be 1.78, unit is 1.56 or 16:10 roughly.
The monitor I'm typing on is 16:10 and 1440x900.
My newest monitor is 1920x1080 and 16:9 .

That's "indeterminate" as far as aging.

*******

Ports are

   DC barrel
   USB2 (fork symbol)       <=== It turns out Hyundai does not use "SS" for USB3. They use black tab USB2, blue tab USB3
   HDMI output

   USB2 (fork symbol)       802.11N plugged in
   Headphone jack 3.5mm
   SD slot of some sort ?

Which means the poor thing had zero networking ? Not likely. The Hybook in the
Youtube video, had one Wifi cable shown coming from the CPU area. I would think
the thing would have Wifi, if they choose to not put an Ethernet port on it!

That makes the unit about twelve years old, as a rough guess.
The date on the internal battery brick should be a very good indicator of age.
A person is unlikely to be screwing around with battery brick replacements
on a unit like this, even though this one is dead-easy to do.

The units shown on the Hyundai website today, are older units (designs not
spun this year), so they are presumably trying to clear out stock.

My desktop of that vintage, has USB3, but it has that because it
has add-on Asmedia chips to make it possible. The Southbridge only
had USB2 ports on it (a bit backward). This unit is unlikely to
be collecting outboard chips for additional functions. If the
unit was newer, a full raft of USB3 would be part of the
Southbridge/PCH or could even come from the SOC part of the CPU.
Some CPUs now, have two SATA ports on them.

If Hyundai made older stuff, they may have changed the web site domain name.
That will make it harder to trace.

As the OP noted, the alignment of the trackpad, to the row of keys
next to it, is not like the units currently on the Hyundai site.

Tracking down seventeen years worth of missing web sites,
is still a challenge. Can you get drivers for these
things ? Maybe I should concentrate on "Hyundai laptop driver"
in Google, to sniff out some more domains.

OMG. The twits! Notice they are using a non-standard port number for a web site.
Classic high school goodness. (Not on archive.org either)

http://download.hyundaitechnology.com:5000/fbsharing/uWt983Gg

I love the "smell of happy customers" burning in the morning air...

( https://support.hyundaitechnology.com/support/discussions/topics/6000052304 )

Summary: Just plug in a 12V adapter with the correct polarity and move on.
         The battery pack is likely to be 8.4V (two lithium cobalt cells
         at top charge voltage), and 12V input will get the job done.
         If the machine catches fire, well, that's about all it is worth
         if the white lettering is missing from the bottom of the chassis.
         You can't even track down drivers for these stupid things.

         The Hyundai "gaming laptop" was different, more of a 19V design with
         a more common kind of battery pack.

         For safety, take the bottom off, read the battery pack voltage,
         use the 12V adapter idea if the pack reads 8.4V/7.4V (charging/nominal).

         If the unit had an eject-able battery pack, then that would
         definitely be a different voltage.

   Paul

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  Re: How do I find a power adapter spec for an old Hyundai laptop? Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-05-01 20:33 -0500
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