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Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power?

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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 1/4/2025 5:28 AM, MikeS wrote:
> 
> > I have an old Win 10 Lenovo laptop with no battery - removed when it
> > became swollen. The laptop regularly hibernates while totally
> > disconnected from the mains and happily wakes up even after several
> > weeks.
> 
> The original question, by some deduction, seems to be focused
> on the side effects of the hibernate state, on the charge condition
> of the battery.
> 
> Do any Wake-logic conditions (burning 1 watt for LAN chip to sense WakeOnLAN),
> affect the battery, making it discharge too low ? Does the laptop have
> a state, where it waked from Hibernate, and the BIOS disconnects all
> power from Wake circuits, then goes back to Soft-Off ?

  As I mentioned, modern laptops, including those with Windows 10, can
have 'Adaptive Hibernate'. When still in the non-hibernate state, they
can  still be woken, but should not use more than 5% of battery capacity
per cycle.

  In full hibernate, my laptop seems to use quite a bit of battery
percentage (completely empty within only 4 days of non-use) if I don't
disable 'Allow wake timers' while 'On battery'. When I do disable this
setting, battery capacity is only 20% less after 7+ days, so much, much
better.

  As to WakeOnLAN: I don't know if that's enabled in my BIOS. (And I
can't be bothered to check, because we laptop users hibernate/wakeup,
instead of doing silly things like rebooting! :-))

> Or instead, does Hibernate not allow Wake at all. Leaving only the
> Power Button as the sole ACPI device that wakes from Hibernation ?

  I think it does allow Wake, otherwise my disabling 'Allow wake timers'
while 'On battery' wouldn't make such a difference

[...]

> In any case, all I can tell the OP regarding laptpps, is
> I pop the battery out of my laptop when not in usage,
> to get the maximum lifetime between charges. I could
> go on a three month vacation, and chances are, there would
> be charge left in the battery sitting on the table. I prefer that,
> to some mystery failure, where the battery ends up below the
> min, and won't accept charge any more (considered "damaged"
> by the logic behind how charging is done).

  Sadly, for most modern laptops, popping out the battery in no longer
an option. This is mainly because they are thinner and lighter and a
removable battery would make them heavier and much thicker. They can be
thinner, because they no longer have CD/DVD drives, no HDDs and no
'thick' ports (HDMI is about as thick as USB, no VGA (etc.) anymore).

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Doesn't Hibernate use NO power?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-03 13:26 -0500
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:30 -0800
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 20:37 +0100
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:08 -0500
    Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-03 18:12 -0600
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 20:29 +0000
    Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-04 10:28 +0000
      Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 07:15 -0500
        Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 16:21 +0000
      Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 16:28 +0000
        Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-04 18:40 +0000
    Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-01-16 12:36 +0200
      Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:23 +0000
        Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-01-23 11:32 +0200
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 12:21 +0800
    Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 12:22 +0800
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