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Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power?

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Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 1/3/2025 1:26 PM, micky wrote:
>> I read in an answers.microsoft.com page that Hibernate uses less power
>> than Sleep.   And another page said something similar.
>>
>> Doesn't Hibernate use NO power?   After it finishes copying the RAM to
>> the HDD, isn't it just like OFF?  In what way could it use power?
>>
>>
>> As an aside, why does one have to enable Hibernate?  The other options,
>> including sleep, restart are implemented by default. Is Hibernate to
>> dangerous for a newbie to handle?
>>
> 
> After Hibernate fills disk, is Soft-Off.
> 
> The fans stop. The main DC rails (3/5/12) are off.
> 
> But, the +5VSB standby supply still runs. It powers the
> Southbridge skeletal features and as Shingi points out,
> there are Wake functions that require power. PME
> (Power Management Event) must be ready to roll.
> 
> Using your Kill-O-Watt meter, and with minimal Wake functions
> enabled, you might find a reading of 1 watt and 7VA. This means
> the Power Factor PF is low, like 0.14 maybe. This means the power
> is reactive, and the reactive power is not "billed".
> 
> You are being billed for the 1 watt power number, not the 7VA.
> 
> If you have a computer with EuP, then the power could be lower.
> But apparently there's been some passive-resistance from the
> industry to that, so don't expect it to work to reduce power.
> 
> I had hoped at one time, that the active PFC on the supply would
> still be engaged, when the +5VSB SMPS is running, but that does
> not seem to be the case. On the other hand, I haven't measured
> all the new supplies here, and it's possible one of my candidates
> will have a lower watt power when in idle state. Not that it matters.
> It's just more satisfying, when hardware you paid for (APFC), actually
> works.
> 
> The power company wants APFC to run, when the main rails are running
> and significant reactive power might be involved. Having a bad power
> factor in Soft-Off, they likely don't care about that, but the thing
> is, the APFC could be left running in both S0 and S5. Maybe it has
> poor responses, when the power is only 1 watt of loading, and it
> might be "unstable" and has to be disabled.
> 
> Even LED lightbulbs don't have APFC, and the power factor started
> off years ago as "better", but the modern $2 bulb has a poor PF.
> The PF on LED is as bad as a CFL bulb now.
> 
>     Paul
> 

Yes, I've noticed that the led light bulbs I bought at walmart do not 
appear on my computer, thus no options to administer massive power 
saving features.

Should I take them back and demand a refund?

This is definitely an issue that should be addressed. I'm heartbroken 
over this monstrous let down. Perhaps a public demonstration could get 
results.

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Doesn't Hibernate use NO power?  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-03 13:26 -0500
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:30 -0800
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-01-03 20:37 +0100
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:08 -0500
    Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-03 18:12 -0600
  Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 20:29 +0000
    Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-04 10:28 +0000
      Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 07:15 -0500
        Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 16:21 +0000
      Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 16:28 +0000
        Re: Doesn't Hibernate use NO power? MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-04 18:40 +0000
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