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Re: ThunderMail is coming soon

From VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: ThunderMail is coming soon
Date 2025-04-22 07:43 -0500
Organization Usenet Elder
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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> You know that Mozilla is packing a parachute right now.
> 
> The last article I read two hours ago, is looking at
> Google having to ditch Chrome as a part of the DOJ
> remedy, and the Mozilla contract got an honorable mention as
> part of the solution as well.
> 
> If Mozilla is going into the poor house, this is why
> they're working on their own self-sustaining business
> opportunities (no matter what their corporate structure
> is, and how they would morph in view of the potential outcome).
> They will have to "shed something" and "belt tighten" and
> change their corporate structure and charter.
> 
> It used to be, they practiced their business opportunities
> as a bit of a lark, but now it's crunch time. A donation model
> would never work.

Yep, I've noted before that Google is getting nailed for bribing web
browser authors, and other anti-trust marketing practices with their
grip on online advertising.  Mozilla could lose 97% of their revenue
that comes from Google.  That's why all those services from Mozilla are
unlikely to [remain to] be free.  They won't be able to afford any
further altruism.  The tit goes dry, and entitled users whine louder.

If Google has to decouple from Chromium, can the rest of the Chromium
dev team keep producing a competitive, up to date, and secure web
browser into the future?  Chromium is developed and maintained by
Google.  With Google gone, who is left to work on Chromium are a group
of devs unknown and unrecognized by the vast majority of users. Chromium
doesn't have automatic updates, API keys for Google services (e.g.,
browser sync), Widevine DRM, licensed codecs for H.264 and AAC, crash
reporting, etc.  Chrome is oriented to a consumer market.  Chromium is
oriented to a much smaller more expert/nerd community.  Ask your friends
to see how many use Chromium.  Chromium never shows up in browser market
share statistics.

If Google has to walk away from Chromium, who is left in its dev team?
Chromium has been a Google project from its inception.  Google does the
vast bulk of development on Chromium.  The Chromium projects (Chromium
and ChromeOS) are not independent of Google.  Some of the other
contributors have been Microsoft, Intel, Samsung, and variant authors,
like Opera, Vivaldi, and Brave.  Of those, and after Google, Microsoft
is the next biggest powerhouse, so, gee, might we end up with Microsoft
Chrome?  Well, there's already Edge-C (Edge that became a Chromium
variant after Microsoft dropped EdgeHTML).

Without Google to pay Mozilla, Mozilla won't have the financial strength
anymore to continue the current level of development.  Firefox might get
more market share, but Mozilla becomes much weaker.  If Google decouples
from Chrome, could be Chromium loses their major developer along with
all its services, so Chromium also becomes much weaker.  No sponsors, no
money.  No money, no development.  Programmers need to eat, too.

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