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Re: Convinced me, going to backup first.

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On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:33:35 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:53:11 -0600, Char
>Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

[...]

>>When I image the Windows disk, I image the entire disk rather than
>>selected partitions. I do that for two main reasons:
>>1. Doing so adds only a trivial amount of data & time to the backup.
>
>For sure. 
>
>>2. Doing so gives me the ability to write that image to a disk that then
>>becomes bootable.
>
>This part I don't understand.   What good is a disk that becomes
>bootable if one can't boot from a USB drive anyhow.  Are  you talking
>about taking that bootable disk and inserting it in the computer?

Possibly, yes. It's good to have options, and to keep those options
open. 

As you know, you can create a clone or an image from a storage device.
 - If you create an image you can use it to create a clone.
 - If you create a clone you can use it to create an image.

Clones and images contain the same data, with their primary difference
being the container. A clone expects to be using the entire drive, at
least initially, while an image just uses the amount of space that its
size requires. Thus, with a larger target drive, you can use it to hold
just one clone versus multiple disk images. Later, if your system disk
dies, you can do one of the following:
 - if you created a clone, you can simply disconnect the dead drive,
plug in the cloned drive, and off you go.
 - if you created one or more images, you might use a second computer to
write one of those images to a new drive, essentially creating a clone
of the drive that you previously imaged, and now you can swap drives and
away you go.

In that respect, you might say that images are less efficient because of
the extra steps required to use them, but from a storage perspective
images are far more efficient because a large drive can hold multiple
images but only one clone.

In my case, my Windows system drive is 512GB, one half of a TB, while my
data drives are 18TB. It wouldn't make much sense to dedicate an entire
18TB drive to holding a clone of a 512GB drive. OTOH, that 18TB drive
could hold lots of images so that if I run into issues later I could
pick which image I want to write out to a new drive and boot from.

>If so, why isnt' a clone good for that too.

Hopefully, now it makes sense. Clones and images are far more alike than
they are different, and if you have one, you can use it to create the
other.

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Convinced me, going to backup first.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-14 22:27 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 03:06 -0500
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          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 23:46 -0700
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    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 11:21 +0000
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-16 13:45 -0500
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 13:14 -0700
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 17:53 -0600
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:49 -0700
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-10 10:33 -0400
              Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-03-10 13:24 -0500
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        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 20:54 +1100
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          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:38 +0000
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 12:49 -0700
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