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Re: Convinced me, going to backup first.

From micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Convinced me, going to backup first.
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Date 2025-03-10 10:33 -0400

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:53:11 -0600, Char
Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:14:35 -0700, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>micky wrote on 2/16/2025 11:45 AM:
>>> Good to know.  It's not too late to replace the clone with an image
>>> backup.  No need to keep the clone especially if one can't boot from a
>>> usb-connected drive.
>>> 
>>>> (In my 10 years of using Macrium Reflect (Free), I've never
>>>> cloned a disk (or partiotion).)
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>
>>To close this out...
>>  Two days ago, a Macrium article you referenced indicated that your 
>>original expectation that a Macrium clone to a USB connected disk was not 
>>bootable media.
>>  i.e. after cloning the primary Windows disk(or its selected partitions) 
>>to a USB connected disk that same USB disk is not a bootable option.
>>
>>Do you now understand the difference(after input from multiple sources) 
>>between imaging and cloning:
>>  Imaging your Windows partitions -for backup/restore purposes
>>vs.
>>  Cloning - primarily for one of three options - upgrading[replacing a 
>>disk with a larger one or replacing the disk with a new disk or moving 
>>everything from one computer to another computer
>>
>>Y/N?
>>
>>If yes, are you now ready to use Macrium Reflect Free(or any other 
>>Macrium version) to image your disk?
>>
>>If yes, do you also realized that if you use Macrium to image Windows(and 
>>its 4 GPT partitions) to a USB connected device, that device will also 
>>***not be bootable***.  It will be available for restoration(everthing 
>>imaged/all or individaul partitions), restoring/copying individual files, 
>>or just inspection when neeeded?
>
>When I image the Windows disk, I image the entire disk rather than
>selected partitions. I do that for two main reasons:
>1. Doing so adds only a trivial amount of data & time to the backup.

For sure. 

>2. Doing so gives me the ability to write that image to a disk that then
>becomes bootable.

This part I don't understand.   What good is a disk that becomes
bootable if one can't boot from a USB drive anyhow.  Are  you talking
about taking that bootable disk and inserting it in the computer?  If
so, why isnt' a clone good for that too. 

And by the way, it says that one cannot boot from a USB drive, but when
I bought my HP Desktop computer 4 or 5 years ago, I was able to boot it
from a clone of the previous HDD in a USB dock.  Unfortunately, the
refurbisher had sent the wrong model and when I got the right model, an
EliteDesk, it could not boot from that particular clone. 

>I haven't been following micky's story closely, so I don't know if my
>approach would work for him.

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Convinced me, going to backup first.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-14 22:27 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-15 03:06 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-15 04:51 -0600
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 08:42 -0500
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-02-15 10:58 -0600
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-15 23:34 -0500
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-15 23:46 -0700
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 09:21 -0500
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 18:08 -0400
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-15 09:14 -0500
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-16 11:21 +0000
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-16 13:45 -0500
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 13:14 -0700
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-02-16 17:53 -0600
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:49 -0700
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-10 10:33 -0400
              Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-03-10 13:24 -0500
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-10 10:38 -0400
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-18 20:54 +1100
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-18 11:53 -0500
            Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-20 20:04 +1100
              Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-20 09:07 -0500
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-21 18:25 +1100
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 09:21 -0500
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-21 18:06 +0000
                Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-21 16:16 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. eternal@notreally.com (Juancho) - 2025-02-16 18:31 +0100
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-16 19:51 -0500
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 06:48 -0500
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:06 +0000
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 10:58 -0500
          Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:38 +0000
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 12:49 -0700
        Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-17 22:05 -0500
  Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-28 00:16 +1000
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-05-27 10:34 -0500
    Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-27 14:31 -0400
      Re: Convinced me, going to backup first. Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-28 20:12 +1000

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