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  We Know What You Are Thinking! Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202504.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-04-03 20:20 +0200
    Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 22:20 +0200
      Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> - 2025-04-04 12:55 +0700
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-04-04 01:34 -0500
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 09:06 +0200
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 09:11 +0200
          Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-04-04 07:57 +0042
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-04 08:55 -0400
          Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 16:17 +0200
            Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-04-04 20:07 +0000
              Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-04 17:08 -0400
            Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! TuTits <tutits@tmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:04 +0200
          Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-04 22:37 +0200
    Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-04-03 22:47 +0200

#375941 — We Know What You Are Thinking!

We Know What You Are Thinking...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnLSWBBQSEU

For your normal daily email you should be using 'E2E' encrypted email here...

Get End To End encrypted email FREE!!! https://tuta.com/pricing

Tuta has been upgraded to quantum-safe key material, making use of our
quantum-safe encryption protocol.

https://tuta.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography

GMAIL and other email providers scan your email as you type it so get your FREE
'ad free' end to end email encryption. 

Free END TO END email encryption: https://tuta.com/pricing

Stay safe, stay encrypted!

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#375943

On 03.04.25 20:20, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> We Know What You Are Thinking...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnLSWBBQSEU
> 
> For your normal daily email you should be using 'E2E' encrypted email here...
> 
> Get End To End encrypted email FREE!!! https://tuta.com/pricing
> 
> Tuta has been upgraded to quantum-safe key material, making use of our
> quantum-safe encryption protocol.
> 
> https://tuta.com/blog/post-quantum-cryptography
> 
> GMAIL and other email providers scan your email as you type it so get your FREE
> 'ad free' end to end email encryption.
> 
> Free END TO END email encryption: https://tuta.com/pricing
> 
> Stay safe, stay encrypted!

No merci for G-Mail-users!


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#375946

On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:20:17 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 03.04.25 20:20, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>> We Know What You Are Thinking...
>> 
>> https://<censored>
>> 
>> For your normal daily email you should be using 'E2E' encrypted email here...
>> 
>> Get End To End encrypted email FREE!!! https://<censored>
>> 
>> Tuta has been upgraded to quantum-safe key material, making use of our
>> quantum-safe encryption protocol.
>> 
>> https://<censored>
>> 
>> GMAIL and other email providers scan your email as you type it so get your FREE
>> 'ad free' end to end email encryption.
>> 
>> Free END TO END email encryption: https://<censored>
>> 
>> Stay safe, stay encrypted!
> 
> No merci for G-Mail-users!

I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.

First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - which is
PGP.

Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service that I
know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.

Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
encryption.

So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
encrypted.

Who actually generate the encryption key in the first place? It's not you.
It's the email server. Also be aware of who keep the encryption key.

Who actually encrypt the data in the first place? It's not you. It's the
email server. Also be aware that, to encrypt a data, requires an encryption
key.

So don't take everything as is, as the truth. Validate them yourself.
Including everything mentioned above.

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#375947

On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 00:55:53 -0500, JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:20:17 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 03.04.25 20:20, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>>> We Know What You Are Thinking...
>>>
>>> https://<censored>
>>>
>>> For your normal daily email you should be using 'E2E' encrypted email here...
>>>
>>> Get End To End encrypted email FREE!!! https://<censored>
>>>
>>> Tuta has been upgraded to quantum-safe key material, making use of our
>>> quantum-safe encryption protocol.
>>>
>>> https://<censored>
>>>
>>> GMAIL and other email providers scan your email as you type it so get your FREE
>>> 'ad free' end to end email encryption.
>>>
>>> Free END TO END email encryption: https://<censored>
>>>
>>> Stay safe, stay encrypted!
>>
>> No merci for G-Mail-users!
>
> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
>
> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - which is
> PGP.
>
> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service that I
> know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.


Doesn't Proton Mail do that?

"We have built Proton Mail with PGP fully integrated, so you don’t need to take any additional steps to use PGP encryption."
https://proton.me/support/how-to-use-pgp


> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
> encryption.
>
> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
> likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
> Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
> encrypted.
>
> Who actually generate the encryption key in the first place? It's not you.
> It's the email server. Also be aware of who keep the encryption key.
>
> Who actually encrypt the data in the first place? It's not you. It's the
> email server. Also be aware that, to encrypt a data, requires an encryption
> key.
>
> So don't take everything as is, as the truth. Validate them yourself.
> Including everything mentioned above.

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#375948

On 04.04.25 07:55, JJ wrote:
> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
> likely are not Tuta Mail.

You do not understand the concept of mail encryption/decryption by OpenPGP.

No merci for outlook.com-users as well.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#375949

On 04.04.25 07:55, JJ wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:20:17 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 03.04.25 20:20, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>>> We Know What You Are Thinking...
>>>
>>> https://<censored>
>>>
>>> For your normal daily email you should be using 'E2E' encrypted email here...
>>>
>>> Get End To End encrypted email FREE!!! https://<censored>
>>>
>>> Tuta has been upgraded to quantum-safe key material, making use of our
>>> quantum-safe encryption protocol.
>>>
>>> https://<censored>
>>>
>>> GMAIL and other email providers scan your email as you type it so get your FREE
>>> 'ad free' end to end email encryption.
>>>
>>> Free END TO END email encryption: https://<censored>
>>>
>>> Stay safe, stay encrypted!
>>
>> No merci for G-Mail-users!
> 
> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
> 
> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - which is
> PGP.
> 
> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service that I
> know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.
> 
> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
> encryption.
> 
> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
> likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
> Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
> encrypted.
> 
> Who actually generate the encryption key in the first place? It's not you.
> It's the email server. Also be aware of who keep the encryption key.
> 
> Who actually encrypt the data in the first place? It's not you. It's the
> email server. Also be aware that, to encrypt a data, requires an encryption
> key.
> 
> So don't take everything as is, as the truth. Validate them yourself.
> Including everything mentioned above.

No sober person would ever use a third party to encrypt sensitive mails.
Neither Tuta nor Proton.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#375950

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> No sober person would ever use a third party to encrypt sensitive mails.
> Neither Tuta nor Proton.

!

-- 
"The government you elect is the government you deserve"
                                                      - Thomas Jefferson

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#375956

On 4/4/2025 1:55 AM, JJ wrote:

> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
> 
> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - which is
> PGP.
> 
> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service that I
> know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.
> 
> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
> encryption.
> 
> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
> likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
> Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
> encrypted.
> 

   Mostly true. But better yet is to just block "Fritz Wuehler".
It's sleazy, nonsense spam. Do you really want to debate spam?

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#375957

On 04.04.25 14:55, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 4/4/2025 1:55 AM, JJ wrote:
> 
>> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
>>
>> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - which is
>> PGP.
>>
>> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service that I
>> know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.
>>
>> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
>> encryption.
>>
>> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
>> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
>> likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
>> Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
>> encrypted.
>>
> 
>     Mostly true. But better yet is to just block "Fritz Wuehler".
> It's sleazy, nonsense spam. Do you really want to debate spam?

Dont' try to mimick a net cop.
Are your mails still not end-to-end encrypted?


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#375958

W Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:17:14 +0200, Jörg Lorenz napisal:

> Dont' try to mimick a net cop.

Did someone impersonate this lorenze spammer? 

This lorenze spammer is everyday always trying to be a net cop on here.

He is always telling you that you can only say what he wants you to say.

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#375960

On 4/4/2025 4:07 PM, Jan K. wrote:
> W Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:17:14 +0200, Jörg Lorenz napisal:
> 
>> Dont' try to mimick a net cop.
> 
> Did someone impersonate this lorenze spammer?
> 
> This lorenze spammer is everyday always trying to be a net cop on here.
> 
> He is always telling you that you can only say what he wants you to say.
> 

    Yes. I already have him blocked. :) For years I never blocked
anyone on Usenet, but over time we've accumulated a number
of people who just like to insult others, without offering anything
useful.

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#375965

On 04 Apr 2025, =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.net> posted
some news:vsopla$ovma$1@solani.org: 

> On 04.04.25 14:55, Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 4/4/2025 1:55 AM, JJ wrote:
>> 
>>> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
>>>
>>> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption -
>>> which is PGP.
>>>
>>> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service
>>> that I know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide
>>> built-in PGP. 
>>>
>>> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
>>> encryption.
>>>
>>> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted
>>> before they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't
>>> _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before
>>> they're received on Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not
>>> Tuta Mail - thus not encrypted.
>>>
>> 
>>     Mostly true. But better yet is to just block "Fritz Wuehler".
>> It's sleazy, nonsense spam. Do you really want to debate spam?
> 
> Dont' try to mimick a net cop.
> Are your mails still not end-to-end encrypted?

Of course not.  Why would you ever think that?  

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#375959

On 2025-04-04 14:55, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 4/4/2025 1:55 AM, JJ wrote:
> 
>> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
>>
>> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - 
>> which is
>> PGP.
>>
>> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service 
>> that I
>> know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.
>>
>> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
>> encryption.
>>
>> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted 
>> before
>> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
>> likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
>> Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
>> encrypted.
>>
> 
>    Mostly true. But better yet is to just block "Fritz Wuehler".
> It's sleazy, nonsense spam. Do you really want to debate spam?

I don't remember who, but it is probably this chap, that posts in Usenet 
trying to promote that Tuta thing, for years.

That said, I am interested in an analysis that explains why this Tuta is 
not that good. It negates what the spammer tries to achieve ;-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#375944

On 03 Apr 2025, Fritz Wuehler
<fritz@spamexpire-202504.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> posted some
news:58f17444fed8a45dfa7126b62215798e@msgid.frell.theremailer.net: 

> We Know What You Are Thinking...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/blXP3ht03g4

Fixed your link!  

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