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Re: We Know What You Are Thinking!

From "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net>
Newsgroups alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.comp.freeware, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: We Know What You Are Thinking!
Date 2025-04-04 01:34 -0500
Organization i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Message-ID <op.24gu8eal1svx94@office-pc.attlocal.net> (permalink)
References <58f17444fed8a45dfa7126b62215798e@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> <vsmqi1$o5t6$2@solani.org> <1cc8e3f3ya87k.1bqokw6o0vqzs.dlg@40tude.net>

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On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 00:55:53 -0500, JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:20:17 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 03.04.25 20:20, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>>> We Know What You Are Thinking...
>>>
>>> https://<censored>
>>>
>>> For your normal daily email you should be using 'E2E' encrypted email here...
>>>
>>> Get End To End encrypted email FREE!!! https://<censored>
>>>
>>> Tuta has been upgraded to quantum-safe key material, making use of our
>>> quantum-safe encryption protocol.
>>>
>>> https://<censored>
>>>
>>> GMAIL and other email providers scan your email as you type it so get your FREE
>>> 'ad free' end to end email encryption.
>>>
>>> Free END TO END email encryption: https://<censored>
>>>
>>> Stay safe, stay encrypted!
>>
>> No merci for G-Mail-users!
>
> I know what they're thinking. Advertising false sense of security.
>
> First of all, Tuta Mail _does not_ use standard email encryption - which is
> PGP.
>
> Second, email encryption is _optional_, and there's no email service that I
> know (feel free to point me out) which actually provide built-in PGP.


Doesn't Proton Mail do that?

"We have built Proton Mail with PGP fully integrated, so you don’t need to take any additional steps to use PGP encryption."
https://proton.me/support/how-to-use-pgp


> Third, nothing can decrypt an encrypted data if it doesn't support
> encryption.
>
> So, sure. Tuta encrypt emails. But outgoing emails must be decrypted before
> they're sent to the recipient email servers - which aren't _always_ and
> likely are not Tuta Mail. And imcoming emails before they're received on
> Tuta Mail, aren't _always_ and likely are not Tuta Mail - thus not
> encrypted.
>
> Who actually generate the encryption key in the first place? It's not you.
> It's the email server. Also be aware of who keep the encryption key.
>
> Who actually encrypt the data in the first place? It's not you. It's the
> email server. Also be aware that, to encrypt a data, requires an encryption
> key.
>
> So don't take everything as is, as the truth. Validate them yourself.
> Including everything mentioned above.

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We Know What You Are Thinking! Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202504.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-04-03 20:20 +0200
  Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-03 22:20 +0200
    Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> - 2025-04-04 12:55 +0700
      Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-04-04 01:34 -0500
      Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 09:06 +0200
      Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 09:11 +0200
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-04-04 07:57 +0042
      Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-04 08:55 -0400
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-04-04 16:17 +0200
          Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-04-04 20:07 +0000
            Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-04 17:08 -0400
          Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! TuTits <tutits@tmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:04 +0200
        Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-04 22:37 +0200
  Re: We Know What You Are Thinking! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-04-03 22:47 +0200

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