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Re: saruman actually means

From phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.checkmate
Subject Re: saruman actually means
Date 2026-02-27 10:12 -0600
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jojo wrote:
> Doc Hammerslack wrote:
>> At Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:57:07 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>
>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>> jojo wrote:
>>>>> monkeyman. have i told you this yet? so saru means monkey in
>>>>> japanese, so saruman means monkeyman.
>>>>>
>>>>> that is what i thought when i first heard of saruman. but he
>>>>> turns out not to be monkey, but he raises an army of orcs.
>>>>>
>>>> I didn't say saruman. I said ahriman.
>>>>
>>>
>>> who is ahriman?
>>
>> """
>> Ahriman is most commonly the name (from Middle Persian) for Angra
>> Mainyu, the destructive/hostile spirit in Zoroastrianism.
>>
>> In classic Zoroastrian thought, Ahura Mazda represents wisdom/good
>> order, while Angra Mainyu (Ahriman) represents the opposing force
>> associated with destruction, deceit, and chaos—often framed as the
>> source of “evil” in the cosmic struggle.
>>
>> “Ahriman” is especially common in later Persian/Zoroastrian writings
>> and popular retellings, while “Angra Mainyu” is the older Avestan form.
>>
>> Because the name is famous, it also shows up a lot in modern fiction
>> and games. For example, Ahriman is the name of a prominent character in
>> Warhammer 40,000 (a Thousand Sons sorcerer), and it appears in various
>> RPGs and fantasy settings as an “evil spirit/demon” reference.
>>
>> If you tell me the context you saw it in (religion text vs. a
>> game/book), I can pin down which Ahriman they meant.
>> """ -Says the infernal beasty
>>
> 
> so ahriman is like that.... what's his name? the babylonian odyysey 
> guy.. gilgamesh?
> 
I've got Turkey or Persia. How about you?

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saruman actually means jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-25 15:39 +0000
  Re: saruman actually means phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 08:11 -0600
    Re: saruman actually means jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-26 17:57 +0000
      Re: saruman actually means phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 12:24 -0600
      Re: saruman actually means "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2026-02-27 01:09 +0000
        Re: saruman actually means snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-02-27 01:17 +0000
          Re: saruman actually means "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2026-02-27 01:59 +0000
            Re: saruman actually means snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-02-27 02:09 +0000
            Re: saruman actually means phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 20:18 -0600
            Re: saruman actually means jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-27 14:26 +0000
        Re: saruman actually means phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 20:14 -0600
        Re: saruman actually means jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-27 14:26 +0000
          Re: saruman actually means phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 10:12 -0600
  Re: saruman actually means mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2026-02-26 12:37 -0500
    Re: saruman actually means jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-02-26 17:58 +0000
    Re: saruman actually means "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2026-02-27 01:05 +0000

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