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Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS

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On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:50:33 -0700, % wrote:

> Nadegda wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:24:48 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <nftvio$j5g$24@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>> says...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:22:59 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In article <nftsc5$j5g$14@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>>> says...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:34:47 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In article <nfrr92$j5g$4@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:52:05 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:38:20 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In article <dod70gF6n2dU11@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>>>> vallor@cultnix.org says...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:48:01 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 10:09 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey),
>>>>>>>>>>>> socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:04:41 -0400, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 9:57 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:46:10 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 9:44 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15206-2117 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:04:29 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give 'em some education and turn 'em into Republicans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YAY!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give people proper education and the next step is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU COMMIE FAG!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communism isn't socialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, marx and engels were correct and are only proven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more correct with each passing day, these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does that frighten you, that systems of economics are able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be modeled and predicted so long ago?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marxism was disproved of late.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when did that happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitalism is the only system that prevails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL  until when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> until socialism, that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, because the "haves" decided to make education a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> commodity and not a right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because its bylaws flow in the same vein as that of human
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selfishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> human selfishness is what, in turn, destroys capitalism
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are proven wrong!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not really.  you are proven to not understand marx and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> engels' theories about the progression of economic systems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on actual scientific and statistical data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound like a punk kid fresh outa political science class,
>>>>>>>>>>>> junior.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And there is no way in hell that you have a real commission.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Because you sound like you've never been within five miles
>>>>>>>>>>> from a political classroom.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But let's exercise that noggin of yours:  By what mechanism
>>>>>>>>>>> does Capitalism (of any sort) ensure that all people born into
>>>>>>>>>>> (say) this USA of ours, have a job?  Or for that matter,
>>>>>>>>>>> any kind of income?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember, automation is taking over, jobs have been offshored.
>>>>>>>>>>> We've had decades of "cut taxes on the rich to make new jobs",
>>>>>>>>>>> and that's clearly not helping.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hell, under Bush, how many bridges collapsed in the U.S.?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As a bona-fide Real Capitalist(tm), I say to you: we're in for
>>>>>>>>>>> a rough ride if we don't change course.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AFe--d-zMA
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [groups snecked]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Moore did a fascinating film on the pitfalls of
>>>>>>>>>> capitalism. All of man's governing machinations are subject to
>>>>>>>>>> corruption sooner or later, and ours is clearly way off course.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Small business capitalism is great.  Even medium-sized.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's the megacorps that continue to mess things up.  Some of
>>>>>>>>> that is the MIC, as Eisenhower warned about.  Some of it is too
>>>>>>>>> much influence on what passes for "the press" in our country
>>>>>>>>> nowadays. The Overton window is way out of wack -- yet it's
>>>>>>>>> never enough, and the way-right folks continue to "appeal to the
>>>>>>>>> refs".
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There was this guy once that coined a term for when corporations
>>>>>>>>> ran the government, which he thought was a good idea.  His name
>>>>>>>>> was Mussolini, and the word was "fascism".
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> After all, the trains ran on time, right?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What good does that do you when the destination is a place like
>>>>>>>> Auschwitz?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Time to throw the switch and reroute this country away from Right
>>>>>>>> Wing Nutlandia and towards Sanders's Scandinavia West.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another round of "campaign finance reform," after Citizens United?
>>>>>>> Politicians owe their very existence to the corrupted system.
>>>>>>> They're not about to give the subject anything but lip service.
>>>>>>> The Government has been bought and paid for by scumbags like the
>>>>>>> Koch brothers and all their intricately-weaved organizations and
>>>>>>> other evil entities.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If so; if the soapbox and ballot box currently being tried don't
>>>>>> work; then I guess it would be time for that Constitutional
>>>>>> convention someone mentioned recently, even though convening one
>>>>>> would mean opening Pandora's box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fat chance that THAT would happen.  The Rich Elite have invested far
>>>>> too much money and effort into corrupting the current system to
>>>>> their liking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How do you fix that without the shit seriously hitting the fan? If
>>>>>>> that happens, a stroke of the pen and COG, martial law, and FEMA
>>>>>>> camps are ready to lock up anybody "they" see fit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Er, what? Don't tell me you, apparently a liberal, bought into that
>>>>>> right- wing wackjob Alex Jones's Jade Helm konspiracy kookery?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alex Jones is indeed, a whackjob, but he's learned how to profit
>>>>> from it.  Having said that, *some* of the things he says have *some*
>>>>> credibility.  If you dig into the Continuity of Government (COG)
>>>>> plans already in place, you'll see that all it takes is a stroke of
>>>>> a pen to rock everybody's world.  What happens after that, is
>>>>> anybody's guess, but the military will have the "right" to barge
>>>>> into our homes without a warrant if they're directed to, and haul
>>>>> off anybody who happens to be on the wrong list.  I think it's a
>>>>> safe assumption that being too outspoken about the Government could
>>>>> land someone on that list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not saying any of this is going to happen, but the process is
>>>>> already in place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The notion that the Constitution still gives us any rights is an
>>>>>>> illusion that only exists until someone gives the go ahead to take
>>>>>>> them away.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And that would be the time to reach for the *fourth* box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's when you have to decide to "cooperate" with the
>>>>> "authorities," or go out in a blaze of glory, and take a few of 'em
>>>>> with you.  It's a no- win situation either way.
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, that's what happened to ol' George Washington and his crew --
>>>> they "went out in a blaze of glory and took a few redcoats with 'em".
>>>> 
>>>> Where did you go to school that you learned this bit of our nation's
>>>> proud history, kook?
>>> 
>>> You're talking about history, Ko0kie.  I'm talking about the future.
>>> George Washington wasn't facing down a firmly entrenched army with the
>>> home court advantage, and the high tech implements of destruction that
>>> our Government has at it's disposal.
>> 
>> That firmly entrenched army you speak of took, to the last person, a
>> loyalty oath to defend the Constitution against enemies "foreign and
>> domestic". Large chunks of it ought logically to be on *our* side
>> against any attempt to usurp our Constitutional rights. Any President
>> or other leader that tries the sort of stuff Alex Jones rants and raves
>> about will quickly find his forces on one side of a civil war, and
>> hopefully the outnumbered side at that.
>> 
>> The only weapons systems with tightly centralized control, meanwhile,
>> are the nukes with their arming codes. Whichever side has the
>> "football" will have those weapons -- but will they dare use them
>> inside their own borders? Any victory obtained by such means would
>> clearly be Pyrrhic. One hopes sanity would prevail and those bombs
>> would stay safe and snug in their silos for the duration.
>> 
>> I'd actually be more worried about the rank-and-file civilian *police*,
>> who don't seem particularly oathbound to the Constitution *or*
>> particularly loyal to the average Joe-on-the-street. These days they're
>> equipped with all kinds of military-surplus hardware, too. Though in a
>> fight between those goofs and the Army I'd bet on the Army.
>> 
>>> BTW... your tax dollars helped arm our potential enemy with the
>>> biggest and badest armaments in the world, and the planes and rockets
>>> to deliver them.  How would you win against a military force that owns
>>> the sky?  How would you hide from a government that knows more about
>>> you than you do, and has video cameras and facial recognition at its
>>> disposal?
>> 
>> The same way Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq did, if it came down to
>> underequipped guerillas versus a professional military. Make the
>> occupation so expensive they simply give up eventually. Come to think
>> of it, didn't Washington use such methods at times against the
>> redcoats?
> 
> and canada got their independence with no fight at all

What kind of "independence" is it when you still have QE as your monarch?

"Technically speaking, Queen Elizabeth is the Sovereign of the 
parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy of Canada. Unless you 
frequently use Canadian money or are particularly savvy with regard to 
Canadian politics, you may not have known they had any kind of monarchy."

Bonus fact:  One stained glass window at the Empress hotel in Victoria, 
BC, shows the sun _setting_ on the British Empire.

Quite apt -- yet it is still named "British" Columbia.  Heh.

-- 
Won a Checky(tm) on 2016-04-15
 ...for schooling a kook about derivatives.
(Including working through sample problems.)

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Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-27 18:38 -0700
  Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 01:52 +0000
    Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 18:54 -0700
    Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-28 02:07 +0000
      Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:19 -0700
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        Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-28 02:30 +0000
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      Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-27 22:34 -0700
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        Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 06:11 +0000
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