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Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS

From "%" <persent@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.checkmate, alt.usenet.kooks
Subject Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS
Date 2016-04-28 15:50 -0700
Organization Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com
Message-ID <9bqpl0.h1n.19.1@news.alt.net> (permalink)
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Nadegda wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:24:48 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> 
>> In article <nftvio$j5g$24@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>> says...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:22:59 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In article <nftsc5$j5g$14@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>> says...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:34:47 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In article <nfrr92$j5g$4@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:52:05 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:38:20 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In article <dod70gF6n2dU11@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>>> vallor@cultnix.org says...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:48:01 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 10:09 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living
>>>>>>>>>>> at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey),
>>>>>>>>>>> socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:04:41 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 9:57 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder living
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15206-2117 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:46:10 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2016 9:44 AM, "Fakey's" dogwhistle holder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:04:29 -0400, Colonel Edmund J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burke <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give 'em some education and turn 'em into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans. YAY!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give people proper education and the next step is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU COMMIE FAG!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communism isn't socialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, marx and engels were correct and are only proven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more correct with each passing day, these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does that frighten you, that systems of economics are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to be modeled and predicted so long ago?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marxism was disproved of late.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> when did that happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitalism is the only system that prevails.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL  until when?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> until socialism, that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> well, because the "haves" decided to make education a
>>>>>>>>>>>> commodity and not a right.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because its bylaws flow in the same vein as that of human
>>>>>>>>>>>>> selfishness.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> human selfishness is what, in turn, destroys capitalism
>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are proven wrong!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not really.  you are proven to not understand marx and
>>>>>>>>>>>> engels' theories about the progression of economic systems
>>>>>>>>>>>> based on actual scientific and statistical data.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You sound like a punk kid fresh outa political science
>>>>>>>>>>> class, junior.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And there is no way in hell that you have a real commission.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Because you sound like you've never been within five miles
>>>>>>>>>> from a political classroom.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But let's exercise that noggin of yours:  By what mechanism
>>>>>>>>>> does Capitalism (of any sort) ensure that all people born
>>>>>>>>>> into (say) this USA of ours, have a job?  Or for that matter,
>>>>>>>>>> any kind of income?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Remember, automation is taking over, jobs have been
>>>>>>>>>> offshored. We've had decades of "cut taxes on the rich to
>>>>>>>>>> make new jobs", and that's clearly not helping.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hell, under Bush, how many bridges collapsed in the U.S.?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As a bona-fide Real Capitalist(tm), I say to you: we're in
>>>>>>>>>> for a rough ride if we don't change course.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AFe--d-zMA
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [groups snecked]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Michael Moore did a fascinating film on the pitfalls of
>>>>>>>>> capitalism. All of man's governing machinations are subject to
>>>>>>>>> corruption sooner or later, and ours is clearly way off
>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Small business capitalism is great.  Even medium-sized.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's the megacorps that continue to mess things up.  Some of
>>>>>>>> that is the MIC, as Eisenhower warned about.  Some of it is too
>>>>>>>> much influence on what passes for "the press" in our country
>>>>>>>> nowadays. The Overton window is way out of wack -- yet it's
>>>>>>>> never enough, and the way-right folks continue to "appeal to
>>>>>>>> the refs".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There was this guy once that coined a term for when
>>>>>>>> corporations ran the government, which he thought was a good
>>>>>>>> idea.  His name was Mussolini, and the word was "fascism".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> After all, the trains ran on time, right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What good does that do you when the destination is a place like
>>>>>>> Auschwitz?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Time to throw the switch and reroute this country away from
>>>>>>> Right Wing Nutlandia and towards Sanders's Scandinavia West.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another round of "campaign finance reform," after Citizens
>>>>>> United? Politicians owe their very existence to the corrupted
>>>>>> system. They're not about to give the subject anything but lip
>>>>>> service. The Government has been bought and paid for by scumbags
>>>>>> like the Koch brothers and all their intricately-weaved
>>>>>> organizations and other evil entities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If so; if the soapbox and ballot box currently being tried don't
>>>>> work; then I guess it would be time for that Constitutional
>>>>> convention someone mentioned recently, even though convening one
>>>>> would mean opening Pandora's box.
>>>> 
>>>> Fat chance that THAT would happen.  The Rich Elite have invested
>>>> far too much money and effort into corrupting the current system
>>>> to their liking.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> How do you fix that without the shit seriously hitting the fan?
>>>>>> If that happens, a stroke of the pen and COG, martial law, and
>>>>>> FEMA camps are ready to lock up anybody "they" see fit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Er, what? Don't tell me you, apparently a liberal, bought into
>>>>> that right- wing wackjob Alex Jones's Jade Helm konspiracy
>>>>> kookery? 
>>>> 
>>>> Alex Jones is indeed, a whackjob, but he's learned how to profit
>>>> from it.  Having said that, *some* of the things he says have
>>>> *some* credibility.  If you dig into the Continuity of Government
>>>> (COG) plans already in place, you'll see that all it takes is a
>>>> stroke of a pen to rock everybody's world.  What happens after
>>>> that, is anybody's guess, but the military will have the "right"
>>>> to barge into our homes without a warrant if they're directed to,
>>>> and haul off anybody who happens to be on the wrong list.  I think
>>>> it's a safe assumption that being too outspoken about the
>>>> Government could land someone on that list.
>>>> 
>>>> Not saying any of this is going to happen, but the process is
>>>> already in place.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> The notion that the Constitution still gives us any rights is an
>>>>>> illusion that only exists until someone gives the go ahead to
>>>>>> take them away.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And that would be the time to reach for the *fourth* box.
>>>> 
>>>> That's when you have to decide to "cooperate" with the
>>>> "authorities," or go out in a blaze of glory, and take a few of
>>>> 'em with you.  It's a no- win situation either way.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, that's what happened to ol' George Washington and his crew --
>>> they "went out in a blaze of glory and took a few redcoats with
>>> 'em". 
>>> 
>>> Where did you go to school that you learned this bit of our nation's
>>> proud history, kook?
>> 
>> You're talking about history, Ko0kie.  I'm talking about the future.
>> George Washington wasn't facing down a firmly entrenched army with
>> the home court advantage, and the high tech implements of
>> destruction that our Government has at it's disposal.
> 
> That firmly entrenched army you speak of took, to the last person, a
> loyalty oath to defend the Constitution against enemies "foreign and
> domestic". Large chunks of it ought logically to be on *our* side
> against any attempt to usurp our Constitutional rights. Any President
> or other leader that tries the sort of stuff Alex Jones rants and
> raves about will quickly find his forces on one side of a civil war,
> and hopefully the outnumbered side at that.
> 
> The only weapons systems with tightly centralized control, meanwhile,
> are the nukes with their arming codes. Whichever side has the
> "football" will have those weapons -- but will they dare use them
> inside their own borders? Any victory obtained by such means would
> clearly be Pyrrhic. One hopes sanity would prevail and those bombs
> would stay safe and snug in their silos for the duration.
> 
> I'd actually be more worried about the rank-and-file civilian
> *police*, who don't seem particularly oathbound to the Constitution
> *or* particularly loyal to the average Joe-on-the-street. These days
> they're equipped with all kinds of military-surplus hardware, too.
> Though in a fight between those goofs and the Army I'd bet on the
> Army. 
> 
>> BTW... your tax dollars helped arm
>> our potential enemy with the biggest and badest armaments in the
>> world, and the planes and rockets to deliver them.  How would you
>> win against a military force that owns the sky?  How would you hide
>> from a government that knows more about you than you do, and has
>> video cameras and facial recognition at its disposal?
> 
> The same way Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq did, if it came down to
> underequipped guerillas versus a professional military. Make the
> occupation so expensive they simply give up eventually. Come to think
> of it, didn't Washington use such methods at times against the
> redcoats? 

and canada got their independence with no fight at all

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Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-27 18:38 -0700
  Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 01:52 +0000
    Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 18:54 -0700
    Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-28 02:07 +0000
      Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:19 -0700
      Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 02:21 +0000
        Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-28 02:30 +0000
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      Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-27 22:34 -0700
        Re: HOW TO GET RID OF DEMOCRATS "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-28 01:43 -0400
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