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Atheism is Witchcraft

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
Last post2016-09-15 23:22 -0700
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  Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-11 13:06 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft WeHang FagZ And Jews Too <macabbeus@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 13:27 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-11 23:44 +0000
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2016-09-11 16:43 -0400
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 23:20 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 00:38 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 14:13 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 07:31 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 12:57 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 08:57 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-12 14:26 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 19:18 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 12:37 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-12 22:43 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:14 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 06:45 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-12 23:56 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:16 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:07 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 22:00 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:53 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 20:15 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 01:34 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:23 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-15 11:29 -0600
                                          Re: Theism is Witchcraft John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-09-15 11:14 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 20:44 +0200
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-09-16 06:34 +1000
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 20:02 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-16 10:25 +1000
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 22:11 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:25 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 06:20 +0200
                                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:57 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:16 +0200
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:01 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-17 11:54 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:55 +1000
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:19 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 10:21 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-17 16:28 +0000
                                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 18:52 +0200
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 13:57 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-18 09:57 +1000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 20:19 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 15:31 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:13 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 07:01 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-12 22:29 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 08:21 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 00:05 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-13 07:49 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-13 18:03 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 21:00 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 06:27 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 02:45 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:14 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 06:44 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 12:31 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 07:57 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 15:02 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:02 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:38 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 03:00 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 15:29 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:55 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-15 14:57 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-09-15 19:37 +0100
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-14 01:34 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-14 11:16 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 19:45 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 14:43 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 07:01 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 22:58 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 23:13 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:49 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:00 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-16 22:06 -0600
                      "Wisely Non-Theist" "Billy_Ray_Ferrell_USA-VP_2016" <billyrferrell@minpin.mshome.net> - 2016-09-17 00:32 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-12 17:55 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2016-09-11 19:08 -0400
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-09-11 15:40 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-09-11 15:26 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-09-12 07:19 -0400
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-09-16 22:42 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-09-13 10:15 -0700
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 11:45 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-09-16 22:57 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2016-09-14 00:26 -0400
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
                        Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-16 12:50 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-17 01:38 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-17 10:21 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-17 16:42 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
                                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
                                    Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                      Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2016-09-14 00:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 00:28 -0400
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 20:08 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-14 15:13 -0500
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 18:10 -0400
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft tirebiter <dontspamme666@bigfoot.com> - 2016-09-14 18:51 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-15 23:22 -0700

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#2168560

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-513863.17382714092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2168558
Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft

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#2168624

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
Message-ID<57da1643$0$30253$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#2168560
On 09/14/2016 07:38 PM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft
>
Obviously an atheist who does not understand the power of the mind.

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#2168642

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-B31CE1.23154214092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2168624
In article <57da1643$0$30253$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com>,
 benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 09/14/2016 07:38 PM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft
> >
> Obviously an atheist who does not understand the power of the mind.

The mind power of atheists is not witchcraft!
Except in the eyes of witches!

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#2168661

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
Message-ID<hmjktb5qje1j4m1l3msmdmo3hng4dviqe1@4ax.com>
In reply to#2168624
On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:32:17 -0400, benj <nobody@gmail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<57da1643$0$30253$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> wrote:

>On 09/14/2016 07:38 PM, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
>> Atheists are the only ones who are free from witchcraft
>>
>Obviously an atheist who does not understand the power of the mind.

Elaborate.  What does that mean?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2168625

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
Message-ID<57da172e$0$61822$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#2168558
On 09/14/2016 07:32 PM, HGW wrote:
> On 14/09/16 12:12, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:01:06 -0400, benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
>>
>
>>>>>> A religious person is a thoroughly demoralized individual who, either
>>>>>> by misfortune or plain stupidity has had such a miserable existence
>>>>>> that it will go to any length to reassure its deluded mind that it
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> one day be given a second chance at life.
>>>>>
>>>>> True. Especially deeply religious atheisst
>>>>
>>>> As rare as hirsute bald men.
>>>>
>>>> <snip even more lies>
>>>>
>>> Obviously we are in the presence of an atheist of great faith!
>>
>> Obviously we are in the presence of a deliberately and arrogantly
>> nasty, lying theist.
>
> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
> has been paid.

So you are saying that psychologists, psychiatrists,, analysts, lawyers, 
and "libs who give "needed" counseling" are all basically used care 
salesmen liars only they have no product to sell. You sound like some 
Lib due to your lack of thinking.

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#2168653

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
Message-ID<e3uup5Ff2bcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2168625
Am 15.09.2016 05:36, schrieb benj:

>> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
>> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
>> has been paid.
>
> So you are saying that psychologists, psychiatrists,, analysts, lawyers,
> and "libs who give "needed" counseling" are all basically used care
> salesmen liars only they have no product to sell. You sound like some
> Lib due to your lack of thinking.
>
>

Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not 
necessarily contain material objects.

This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.

Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact 
commercial, while a church is not.

Most religions are strictly non-commercial.

The mixture of commercial interests and believe was somehow a speciality 
of the medieval Catholic Church.

On the other end of the same scale we had Hinduist monks, who had to beg 
for food.

Most religions of today are more in the middle and collect some money, 
but mainly to maintain the life of the priests and to run the system of 
the church.




TH

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#2168665

FromHGW <hw@....>
Date2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
Message-ID<nrdkhf$1lme$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2168653
On 15/09/16 16:52, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 15.09.2016 05:36, schrieb benj:
>
>>> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
>>> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
>>> has been paid.

> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> necessarily contain material objects.
>
> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
>
> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> commercial, while a church is not.
>
> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.

HAHAHHHAHHAHA! That's a joke, surely. They are all in it for the money 
and sex under the guise of respectability and honesty. The best way to 
lose your friends is to criticize a charity worker even if you know they 
are fiddling the till to buy their grog..

> The mixture of commercial interests and believe was somehow a speciality
> of the medieval Catholic Church.
>
> On the other end of the same scale we had Hinduist monks, who had to beg
> for food.
>
> Most religions of today are more in the middle and collect some money,
> but mainly to maintain the life of the priests and to run the system of
> the church.

Now that homosexuality is legal in many countries, the church is having 
a lot of trouble enlisting priests.

I wonder why...


> TH


-- 

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#2168677

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-DBC024.02505215092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2168653
In article <e3uup5Ff2bcU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 15.09.2016 05:36, schrieb benj:
> 
> >> The main difference between a religious preacher and a used car salesman
> >> is that the latter's product actually exists, at least until the money
> >> has been paid.
> >
> > So you are saying that psychologists, psychiatrists,, analysts, lawyers,
> > and "libs who give "needed" counseling" are all basically used care
> > salesmen liars only they have no product to sell. You sound like some
> > Lib due to your lack of thinking.
> >
> >
> 
> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not 
> necessarily contain material objects.
> 
> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> 
> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact 
> commercial, while a church is not.
> 
> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#2168867

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
Message-ID<e40fpdFqrs6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2168677
Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
>> necessarily contain material objects.
>>
>> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
>>
>> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
>> commercial, while a church is not.
>>
>> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Most people overestimate the importance of money.

A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial 
interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover 
philosophical questions, ethics and moral.

People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above 
the usual life.

Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.

And most churches are actually poor.

But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic 
Church.

But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn 
money.


TH

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#2168874 — Re: Theism is Witchcraft

FromVirgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com>
Date2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
SubjectRe: Theism is Witchcraft
Message-ID<VIRGIL-E653F1.15022915092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2168867
Atheism does not rely on magic!
-- 
Virgil
"Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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#2169000

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-4373C4.19230215092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2168867
In article <e40fpdFqrs6U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> >> necessarily contain material objects.
> >>
> >> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> >>
> >> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> >> commercial, while a church is not.
> >>
> >> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> >
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> 
> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> 
> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial 
> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover 
> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> 
> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above 
> the usual life.
> 
> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> 
> And most churches are actually poor.
> 
> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic 
> Church.
> 
> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn 
> money.

Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.

Explain Pat Robertson telling elderly people who can barely pay the bill 
to keep the lights on, who might have to choose between food and their 
medications, that they should continue sending money to him.

Religion is ALL about the money.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#2169012

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
Message-ID<nrfn5a$iil$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#2169000
On 2016-09-16, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> Religion is ALL about the money.
>
Selling smoke for money ;p

-- 
press any key to continue or any other to quit

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#2169061

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
Message-ID<e41h1uF3bqbU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2169000
Am 16.09.2016 04:23, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:

>>>> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
>>>
>>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>
>> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
>>
>> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
>> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
>> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
>>
>> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
>> the usual life.
>>
>> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
>>
>> And most churches are actually poor.
>>
>> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
>> Church.
>>
>> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
>> money.
>
> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.

I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche 
Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.

Also the churches are not that large, even if some buildings are huge.

EKD is a certain form of protestantism, which is typical for Germany.

It is very remote to the Church of England for instance, even if they 
are also Protestants.



> Explain Pat Robertson telling elderly people who can barely pay the bill
> to keep the lights on, who might have to choose between food and their
> medications, that they should continue sending money to him.

The American forms of protestantism are almost unknown in Germany, 
similar the semi-commercial churches.

> Religion is ALL about the money.
>

Business is about money, but churches are not a business.


TH

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#2169094

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-666C24.01153916092016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2169061
In article <e41h1uF3bqbU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

> Am 16.09.2016 04:23, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >>>> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> >>>
> >>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> >>
> >> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
> >> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
> >> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> >>
> >> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
> >> the usual life.
> >>
> >> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> >>
> >> And most churches are actually poor.
> >>
> >> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
> >> Church.
> >>
> >> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
> >> money.
> >
> > Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.
> 
> I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche 
> Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.
> 
> Also the churches are not that large, even if some buildings are huge.
> 
> EKD is a certain form of protestantism, which is typical for Germany.
> 
> It is very remote to the Church of England for instance, even if they 
> are also Protestants.
> 
> 
> 
> > Explain Pat Robertson telling elderly people who can barely pay the bill
> > to keep the lights on, who might have to choose between food and their
> > medications, that they should continue sending money to him.
> 
> The American forms of protestantism are almost unknown in Germany, 
> similar the semi-commercial churches.

Lucky you.


> > Religion is ALL about the money.
> >
> 
> Business is about money, but churches are not a business.

They are in the US.

-- 

JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream 
up a God superior to themselves. Most 
Gods have the manners and morals of a 
spoiled child.

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#2169281

FromDon Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net>
Date2016-09-16 12:50 -0400
Message-ID<ju2otb9kjra5paihbq550aam10pktd6q0i@4ax.com>
In reply to#2169061
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:16:19 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.
>
>I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche 
>Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.

But they still manage to eat, do they not, with little effort beyond
babbling the words of faith to people who already tend to believe in
such words.

In this country, on the other hand, we do have evangelists in
mansions.  When I was a kid (Kind) back in the 50s, I learned that
Billy Graham went from revival to revival in a fleet of seven
Cadillacs (then considered the very "richest" American production
automobile), and wondered why he was unable to haul his holy arse
about in seven Fords.  He did not live in a shack, either:
http://www.celebrityhousepictures.com/billy-graham.php

We also have numerous evangelicals pretty much in poverty--they tend
to hold services featuring rattlesnakes and such--but one never hears
of one starving to death.

-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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#2169522

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-17 01:38 +0000
Message-ID<nri6qq$puh$12@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2169281
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:32 -0400, Don Martin wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:16:19 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> 
>>> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.
>>
>>I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche
>>Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.
> 
> But they still manage to eat, do they not, with little effort beyond
> babbling the words of faith to people who already tend to believe in
> such words.
> 
> In this country, on the other hand, we do have evangelists in mansions. 
> When I was a kid (Kind) back in the 50s, I learned that Billy Graham
> went from revival to revival in a fleet of seven Cadillacs (then
> considered the very "richest" American production automobile), and
> wondered why he was unable to haul his holy arse about in seven Fords. 
> He did not live in a shack, either:
> http://www.celebrityhousepictures.com/billy-graham.php
> 
> We also have numerous evangelicals pretty much in poverty--they tend to
> hold services featuring rattlesnakes and such--but one never hears of
> one starving to death.

Because they're more likely to die from snake venom poisoning.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2169769

FromDon Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net>
Date2016-09-17 10:21 -0400
Message-ID<p8iqtbl92fdvmhv78j96n86r8k3srt5vc6@4ax.com>
In reply to#2169522
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 01:38:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:32 -0400, Don Martin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:16:19 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.
>>>
>>>I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche
>>>Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large mansions.
>> 
>> But they still manage to eat, do they not, with little effort beyond
>> babbling the words of faith to people who already tend to believe in
>> such words.
>> 
>> In this country, on the other hand, we do have evangelists in mansions. 
>> When I was a kid (Kind) back in the 50s, I learned that Billy Graham
>> went from revival to revival in a fleet of seven Cadillacs (then
>> considered the very "richest" American production automobile), and
>> wondered why he was unable to haul his holy arse about in seven Fords. 
>> He did not live in a shack, either:
>> http://www.celebrityhousepictures.com/billy-graham.php
>> 
>> We also have numerous evangelicals pretty much in poverty--they tend to
>> hold services featuring rattlesnakes and such--but one never hears of
>> one starving to death.
>
>Because they're more likely to die from snake venom poisoning.

Well, yes, that _does_ make the papers from time to time.  The bite,
and the fact that their services are typically held miles up dirt
roads from any medical facility, does them in quicker than the dodgy
cooking of their parishioners.  Besides, aren't true believers
supposed to be poison proof?

-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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#2169812

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-09-17 16:42 +0000
Message-ID<nrjrq7$1ddh$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2169769
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:21:18 -0400, Don Martin wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 01:38:34 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:50:32 -0400, Don Martin wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:16:19 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.
>>>>
>>>>I am German and 'Priester' (priests) of 'EKD' (Evangelische Kirche
>>>>Deutschlands ~ evangelical church of Germany) do not own large
>>>>mansions.
>>> 
>>> But they still manage to eat, do they not, with little effort beyond
>>> babbling the words of faith to people who already tend to believe in
>>> such words.
>>> 
>>> In this country, on the other hand, we do have evangelists in
>>> mansions. When I was a kid (Kind) back in the 50s, I learned that
>>> Billy Graham went from revival to revival in a fleet of seven
>>> Cadillacs (then considered the very "richest" American production
>>> automobile), and wondered why he was unable to haul his holy arse
>>> about in seven Fords. He did not live in a shack, either:
>>> http://www.celebrityhousepictures.com/billy-graham.php
>>> 
>>> We also have numerous evangelicals pretty much in poverty--they tend
>>> to hold services featuring rattlesnakes and such--but one never hears
>>> of one starving to death.
>>
>>Because they're more likely to die from snake venom poisoning.
> 
> Well, yes, that _does_ make the papers from time to time.  The bite,
> and the fact that their services are typically held miles up dirt roads
> from any medical facility, does them in quicker than the dodgy cooking
> of their parishioners. 

Does the dodgy cooking include rattler stew?

> Besides, aren't true believers supposed to be poison proof?

True believers are also supposed to be truthful, but we both know the 
evidence for that is non-existent.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2169071

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
Message-ID<57DB9437.2271@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2169000
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> 
> In article <e40fpdFqrs6U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> 
> > Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> >
> > >> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> > >> necessarily contain material objects.
> > >>
> > >> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> > >>
> > >> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> > >> commercial, while a church is not.
> > >>
> > >> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> > >
> > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> >
> > Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> >
> > A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
> > interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
> > philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> >
> > People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
> > the usual life.
> >
> > Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> >
> > And most churches are actually poor.
> >
> > But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
> > Church.
> >
> > But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
> > money.
> 
> Explain all those huge mansions of all those evangelical ministers.


A church is a Hospitol for sinnners...as a hospitol is a place for
injured bodies, the church is
for injured souls.


You cannot go to your doctor and tell him you murdered somebody...your
soul hurts. The Doctor would
probably give wrong advise like turn yourself to the police.

You go to the doctors of the soul...

shouldn't both doctors get paid for their services???

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#2169044

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
Message-ID<57DB88A6.575D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2168867
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am 15.09.2016 11:50, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> 
> >> Services of the various kinds, like e.g. the work of a lawyer, do not
> >> necessarily contain material objects.
> >>
> >> This is why they are called 'services' and not 'sale'.
> >>
> >> Commercial services are different to churches, since they are in fact
> >> commercial, while a church is not.
> >>
> >> Most religions are strictly non-commercial.
> >
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> 
> Most people overestimate the importance of money.
> 
> A church is not really a business and has not primarily commercial
> interests. Churches are related to the spiritual realm and cover
> philosophical questions, ethics and moral.
> 
> People also try to acquire certain experiences, that are elevated above
> the usual life.
> 
> Something as profane as money does not really fit into such a picture.
> 
> And most churches are actually poor.
> 
> But there are major exceptions from this rule, like e.g. the Catholic
> Church.
> 
> But being wealthy does not mean, that the Catholics only exist to earn
> money.
> 
> TH


a church is a hospitol for sinners...if you murder someone, and it
bothers you...you don't want to be stupid enought to confess to
the police...you confess to the church. It's a hospitol for...sinners.

Then you're free to murder someone else.

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