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  Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 15:14 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 15:25 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 17:26 -0700
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 17:32 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:36 -0700
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:52 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:16 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-21 19:28 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 01:14 -0800
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-22 02:04 -0800
                      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 17:55 -0800
                        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-22 18:08 -0800
                          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 00:20 -0800
                            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:51 -0800
                          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 00:23 -0800
                            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:43 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:46 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-20 19:45 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:49 -0700
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 13:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 13:52 +0000
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:31 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-24 23:23 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-20 19:43 -0600
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:47 -0700
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:21 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 20:24 -0700
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-22 00:48 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-23 00:34 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-22 06:16 -0600
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:46 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-23 12:44 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-25 12:53 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-02-26 02:04 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-28 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-29 23:44 +0000
                      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-01 11:21 -0600
                        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-01 20:40 +0000
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:06 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:20 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 00:47 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 17:04 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-02-20 17:28 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:49 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:30 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 18:42 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 12:38 +0000
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Norm X" <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-20 18:45 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Norm X" <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-20 19:13 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 20:28 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:56 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-22 08:54 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:55 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-02-21 03:42 -0500
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 11:32 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 12:41 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 18:45 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 20:20 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:27 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 17:57 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-23 00:42 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 20:08 -0800
                [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:15 +0800
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-02-29 10:09 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 11:04 -0800
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-29 23:52 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:05 -0800
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:55 +0800
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:11 -0800
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:45 +0800
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:34 -0800
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-03 00:40 -0800
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-03-03 15:29 -0500
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-23 14:12 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:11 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 22:03 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-02-23 15:49 -0500
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:58 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:33 +0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-23 00:38 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 11:35 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-02-22 09:09 -0500
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-23 03:33 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-22 20:21 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-23 18:20 +0000
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-23 12:43 -0600
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 12:56 +1100
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-24 00:04 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 23:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-24 13:12 +0100
          Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-02-24 08:32 -0500
          Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-03 11:30 +1100
            WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-03-02 17:18 -0800
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 21:10 -0500
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 20:18 -0700
                WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-03-02 19:54 -0800
                  Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 23:36 -0800
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-03-02 23:14 -0700
                Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:52 -0700
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-03 18:45 +1100
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-03-03 22:29 -0400
            Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-03-02 23:56 -0500
              Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-03 18:46 +1100
                Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-03-03 19:55 -0500
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-24 04:18 -0600
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 23:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-25 02:49 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-25 08:53 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 23:33 +1100
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 21:23 +0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-24 23:34 +0000
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:40 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-25 08:56 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 16:58 +0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-26 19:08 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-25 02:53 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-25 08:55 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 16:59 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 03:33 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 08:56 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 23:46 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-26 14:16 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 12:25 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-26 23:21 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:02 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 08:07 -0800
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 10:02 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 23:38 +0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 12:00 -0500
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 23:55 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-26 19:10 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 20:14 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 06:59 -0800

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#2065210

Yes there is doubt that our universe being created.  The question is does it make sense that the universe did not exist at some point making it logically impossibe for it to have been created since nothing can not be used to make something.  A universe that always existed makes more sense.

No matter how much you lie and claim that there is irrefutable evidence that there was a creation, it is simply not true and makes no sense.  Like most of the things you say.

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#2064843

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:16:37 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:25:31 -0800 (PST), Greywolf
> <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 5:14:30 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> If you ask people
> >> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> >> You either going to get
> >> a Yes or No answer.
> >> 
> >> The answer is either Yes or No.
> >> 
> >> But...if you ask God the same question..
> >> 
> >> His answer would be...
> >> 
> >> 
> >> "That's a little bit of a hard question to answer."
> >> 
> >> God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
> >
> >__________
> >
> >Supposing there WAS a God, just for the moment.
> 
> NO.........suppose.  God absolutely is.

Is nothing other than an un-evidenced myth you assume, irrationally, to be true, fat fel.

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#2063144

On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 3:14:30 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> If you ask people
> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> You either going to get
> a Yes or No answer.
> 
> The answer is either Yes or No.
> 
> But...if you ask God the same question..
> 
> His answer would be...
> 
> 
> "That's a little bit of a hard question to answer."
> 
> God would say, "It's not that black and white..."

II  just love theist humor.  Of course God won't say anything, he's not real.

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#2063159

The Starmaker wrote:


> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"

Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*, and
you can read about Him here:

http://www.venganza.org/

*Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't exist
anyway.

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#2063162

Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> 
> Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*, and
> you can read about Him here:
> 
> http://www.venganza.org/
> 
> *Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
> guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't exist
> anyway.



the Flying Spaghetti Monster couldn't possibly be God...I don't think
Italian is God's language.

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#2063166

On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 8:04:46 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > 

Star, ol' buddy, ol' pal, if you asked me that 
"Is there a God?" Q, I'd restate it as:

Resolved: God exists.

and let you take the affirmative and the burden of proof.

Wear yourself out trying to prove it.  You don't
have sufficient evidence for the claim, and I severely
doubt you will ever get any.


> > Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*, and
> > you can read about Him here:
> > 
> > http://www.venganza.org/
> > 
> > *Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
> > guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't exist
> > anyway.
> 

Praise be the pasta, the sauce and the cheese, ramen!
(Just avoid the quarrels between the Romano Pastafarians
and the Parmesanos.)
 
> the Flying Spaghetti Monster couldn't possibly be God...I don't think
> Italian is God's language.

That'd be news to the R.C. Church!

People responding, trim rec.arts.sf.written, please. 

And please, Star, stop posting this off-topic gibberish in other 
groups, you sad, sad man.

Kevin R

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#2063364

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:04:46 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > 
> > Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*, and
> > you can read about Him here:
> > 
> > http://www.venganza.org/
> > 
> > *Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
> > guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't exist
> > anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> the Flying Spaghetti Monster couldn't possibly be God...I don't think
> Italian is God's language.

What language is a proto-pixie speaking?
It can speak human language????

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#2063562

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 4:49:55 AM UTC-6, hhya...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:04:46 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > 
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > 
> > > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > > 
> > > Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*, and
> > > you can read about Him here:
> > > 
> > > http://www.venganza.org/
> > > 
> > > *Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
> > > guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't exist
> > > anyway.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > the Flying Spaghetti Monster couldn't possibly be God...I don't think
> > Italian is God's language.
> 
> What language is a proto-pixie speaking?
> It can speak human language????

_________

Why of course not. That's why when evangelicals start with that utterly stupid "speaking in tongues" nonsense, no language specialist on *earth* could provide an accurate translation--seeing it's no "language" at all.

It's just idiots trying to demonstrate, in a completely dishonest way, that they're filled with some sort of supernatural "spirit" to other idiots--who fake their "speaking in tongues" right back those brainwashed idiots.

The thing is, that at the Pentecost described in Acts 2, ACTUAL languages were being spoken. What was the "miracle" in all of that is that each disciple could hear someone who spoke a completely different language from theirs HEARD it in their OWN language.

Here's the text of Acts 2:5-12,

""Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. And they were amazed and astonished, saying, `Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians-we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.' And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, `What does this mean?'

So the evangelical jumping around and speaking gibberish is actually speaking . . . . . . *real* gibberish! 

They're as dishonest as the day is long.

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#2063805

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 4:30:37 AM UTC+8, Greywolf wrote:
> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 4:49:55 AM UTC-6, hhya...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:04:46 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > > > 
> > > > Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*, and
> > > > you can read about Him here:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.venganza.org/
> > > > 
> > > > *Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
> > > > guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't exist
> > > > anyway.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > the Flying Spaghetti Monster couldn't possibly be God...I don't think
> > > Italian is God's language.
> > 
> > What language is a proto-pixie speaking?
> > It can speak human language????
> 
> _________
> 
> Why of course not. That's why when evangelicals start with that utterly stupid "speaking in tongues" nonsense, no language specialist on *earth* could provide an accurate translation--seeing it's no "language" at all.
> 
> It's just idiots trying to demonstrate, in a completely dishonest way, that they're filled with some sort of supernatural "spirit" to other idiots--who fake their "speaking in tongues" right back those brainwashed idiots.
> 
> The thing is, that at the Pentecost described in Acts 2, ACTUAL languages were being spoken. What was the "miracle" in all of that is that each disciple could hear someone who spoke a completely different language from theirs HEARD it in their OWN language.
> 
> Here's the text of Acts 2:5-12,
> 
> ""Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. And they were amazed and astonished, saying, `Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians-we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.' And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, `What does this mean?'
> 
> So the evangelical jumping around and speaking gibberish is actually speaking . . . . . . *real* gibberish! 
> 
> They're as dishonest as the day is long.

Not just dishonest, but outright trying to take their believers as fools....
These con theists are now focusing in the third world nations because they have parents saturated in their first world, lessening their load for proselytizing work.

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#2063412

The Starmaker wrote:

> Ted&Alice Street wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > 
> > Most emphatically, YES! We call Him the Flying Spaghetti Monster*,
> > and you can read about Him here:
> > 
> > http://www.venganza.org/
> > 
> > *Don't let the word "monster" scare you. The FSM is basically a nice
> > guy, unlike the god described by the Christian bible, who doesn't
> > exist anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> the Flying Spaghetti Monster couldn't possibly be God...I don't think
> Italian is God's language.

Better let the Pope know that then.

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#2063204

"The Starmaker"  wrote

> If you ask people
> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> You either going to get
> a Yes or No answer.
>
> The answer is either Yes or No.
>
> But...if you ask God the same question..
>
> His answer would be...
>
>
> "That's a little bit of a hard question to answer."
>
> God would say, "It's not that black and white..."

Read the Old Testament. Yahweh (or Jehovah) appeared in a burning bush and 
proclaimed "I am what I am". (Popeye said the same.) If you know theology, 
you know that one statement is the basis of monotheism in Judaism, 
Christianity and Islam and the Bahá'í Faith.

Preceding religions all believed in polytheism.

QUESTION: Why did pose a proposition about God and not gods?Are you some 
kind of religious bigot trying to stir up trouble?




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#2063222

"The Starmaker"  wrote

> God would say, "It's not that black and white..."

Nonsense begets nonsense (GIGO). Descarte wrote "dubito ergo cogito ergo 
sum", meaning I doubt, therefor I think, therefor I am. God or the gods are 
not on drugs or stupid. He/she/it or they, would agree with  Descarte. 
Descarte is consistent with "I am what I am". Wise people (God/gods) do not 
suffer fools like you. If you think you have been talking to God or speak 
for God (he/she or it), you are on drugs or stupid.

Get help soon.

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#2063264

Norm X wrote:
> 
> "The Starmaker"  wrote
> 
> > God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
> 
> Nonsense begets nonsense (GIGO). Descarte wrote "dubito ergo cogito ergo
> sum", meaning I doubt, therefor I think, therefor I am. God or the gods are
> not on drugs or stupid. He/she/it or they, would agree with  Descarte.
> Descarte is consistent with "I am what I am". Wise people (God/gods) do not
> suffer fools like you. If you think you have been talking to God or speak
> for God (he/she or it), you are on drugs or stupid.
> 
> Get help soon.
> 
> Medieval logic and Theology is a wonderful thing. Study hard.
> 


Descarte's quote "I think, therefor I am." is a stupid quote.


"I think" is the brain part of the physical body....What is "I am"???? No relationship to 'I think'.


There is no "I am".


It's an illusion.


Please stop quoting stupid old tyme quotes that are in error.

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#2063870

On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Norm X wrote:
> > 
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote
> > 
> > > God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
> > 
> > Nonsense begets nonsense (GIGO). Descarte wrote "dubito ergo cogito ergo
> > sum", meaning I doubt, therefor I think, therefor I am. God or the gods are
> > not on drugs or stupid. He/she/it or they, would agree with  Descarte.
> > Descarte is consistent with "I am what I am". Wise people (God/gods) do not
> > suffer fools like you. If you think you have been talking to God or speak
> > for God (he/she or it), you are on drugs or stupid.
> > 
> > Get help soon.
> > 
> > Medieval logic and Theology is a wonderful thing. Study hard.
> > 
> 
> 
> Descarte's quote "I think, therefor I am." is a stupid quote.
> 
> 
> "I think" is the brain part of the physical body....What is "I am"???? No relationship to 'I think'.
> 
Certainly not with you.  Dumb as a sack full of rocks.
> 
> There is no "I am".
> 
There is no God either.
> 
> It's an illusion.
> 
Like your God.
> 
> Please stop quoting stupid old tyme quotes that are in error.

You first.

To be conscious, is to be conscious of SOMETHING.  In order to think, one has to be conscious.  When one is conscious, one becomes aware that one exists.  I think therefore I am makes perfect sense.  Some people think it should be the other way round, I am therefore I think, but one needs to conscious to about the I am part. 

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#2063940

On 22/02/2016 05:56, Cloud Hobbit wrote:

> To be conscious, is to be conscious of SOMETHING.  In order to think,
> one has to be conscious.  When one is conscious, one becomes aware
> that one exists.  I think therefore I am makes perfect sense.  Some
> people think it should be the other way round, I am therefore I
> think, but one needs to conscious to about the I am part.
>

Generally true, of course, but I think it is slightly more complicated 
than that.  The trick is to have a sense of self, and that is not 
universally correct.  Babies do not have a sense of self from birth, nor 
does Descartes' dictum hold true for people suffering from multiple 
personality disorder ...

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#2063367

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 11:13:42 AM UTC+8, Norm X wrote:
> "The Starmaker"  wrote
> 
> > God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
> 
> Nonsense begets nonsense (GIGO). Descarte wrote "dubito ergo cogito ergo 
> sum", meaning I doubt, therefor I think, therefor I am. God or the gods are 
> not on drugs or stupid. He/she/it or they, would agree with  Descarte. 
> Descarte is consistent with "I am what I am". Wise people (God/gods) do not 
> suffer fools like you. If you think you have been talking to God or speak 
> for God (he/she or it), you are on drugs or stupid.

You are a little bit wrong here....
The theists are always speaking for their proto-pixie or talking to one.
> 
> Get help soon.

All theists do need help.
> 
> Medieval logic and Theology is a wonderful thing. Study hard. 
> 
> 
> 
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#2063344

The Starmaker wrote:
> If you ask people
> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> You either going to get
> a Yes or No answer.
>


Most certainly,.... I exist. 

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#2063538

Bast wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > If you ask people
> > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > You either going to get
> > a Yes or No answer.
> >
> 
> Most certainly,.... I exist.



oh, oh...another 'think therefore, must be an I there somewhere'.



Who is "I"?


"I" doesn't exist..."I" is an illusion...a virtual person.


There is no proof that an "I" exist.


Therefore...I don't think.

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#2063578

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Bast wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > If you ask people
> > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > > You either going to get
> > > a Yes or No answer.
> > >
> >
> > Most certainly,.... I exist.
> 
> oh, oh...another 'think therefore, must be an I there somewhere'.
> 
> Who is "I"?
> 
> "I" doesn't exist..."I" is an illusion...a virtual person.
> 
> There is no proof that an "I" exist.
> 
> Therefore...I don't think.


Atheist claim that God is a imaginary person...suppose that's true? 

God could be imagining He is God.


God is probably saying right now..."I think, therefore I'm am."

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#2063807

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 4:41:59 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Bast wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > If you ask people
> > > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > > > You either going to get
> > > > a Yes or No answer.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Most certainly,.... I exist.
> > 
> > oh, oh...another 'think therefore, must be an I there somewhere'.
> > 
> > Who is "I"?
> > 
> > "I" doesn't exist..."I" is an illusion...a virtual person.
> > 
> > There is no proof that an "I" exist.
> > 
> > Therefore...I don't think.
> 
> 
> Atheist claim that God is a imaginary person...suppose that's true? 

It is true...
> 
> God could be imagining He is God.

Since it is true, where does a proto-pixie come from?
> 
> 
> God is probably saying right now..."I think, therefore I'm am."

Putting words into your imaginative pixie could have grave consequences, as theists are unawared.

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