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Re: Is there a God, Yes or No?

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Date 2016-02-21 21:56 -0800
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Subject Re: Is there a God, Yes or No?
From Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>

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On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Norm X wrote:
> > 
> > "The Starmaker"  wrote
> > 
> > > God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
> > 
> > Nonsense begets nonsense (GIGO). Descarte wrote "dubito ergo cogito ergo
> > sum", meaning I doubt, therefor I think, therefor I am. God or the gods are
> > not on drugs or stupid. He/she/it or they, would agree with  Descarte.
> > Descarte is consistent with "I am what I am". Wise people (God/gods) do not
> > suffer fools like you. If you think you have been talking to God or speak
> > for God (he/she or it), you are on drugs or stupid.
> > 
> > Get help soon.
> > 
> > Medieval logic and Theology is a wonderful thing. Study hard.
> > 
> 
> 
> Descarte's quote "I think, therefor I am." is a stupid quote.
> 
> 
> "I think" is the brain part of the physical body....What is "I am"???? No relationship to 'I think'.
> 
Certainly not with you.  Dumb as a sack full of rocks.
> 
> There is no "I am".
> 
There is no God either.
> 
> It's an illusion.
> 
Like your God.
> 
> Please stop quoting stupid old tyme quotes that are in error.

You first.

To be conscious, is to be conscious of SOMETHING.  In order to think, one has to be conscious.  When one is conscious, one becomes aware that one exists.  I think therefore I am makes perfect sense.  Some people think it should be the other way round, I am therefore I think, but one needs to conscious to about the I am part.

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Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 15:14 -0800
  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 15:25 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 17:26 -0700
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 17:32 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:36 -0700
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:52 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:16 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-21 19:28 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 01:14 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-22 02:04 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 17:55 -0800
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                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 00:20 -0800
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                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 00:23 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:43 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:46 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-20 19:45 -0600
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:49 -0700
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 13:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 13:52 +0000
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              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-24 23:23 +0000
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      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:47 -0700
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:21 -0800
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        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-22 00:48 -0600
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    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-22 06:16 -0600
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        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-23 12:44 -0600
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-25 12:53 -0600
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                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-28 22:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-29 23:44 +0000
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-01 11:21 -0600
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          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:06 -0800
  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:20 -0800
  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 00:47 +0000
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 17:04 -0800
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        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:30 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 18:42 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 12:38 +0000
  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Norm X" <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-20 18:45 -0800
  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Norm X" <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-20 19:13 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 20:28 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:56 -0800
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    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:55 -0800
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    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 11:32 -0800
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        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 18:45 -0800
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