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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date 2015-06-30 15:53 +0200
Message-ID <cvflajFg36U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 30/06/2015 03:52, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in
> news:6oc2patisq9hki0uk3kmb9able4uohdljs@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:01:48 +0200, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/06/2015 01:26, Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>>> God set the whole scenario up such that anyone who wants to can find
>>>> enough information to make their own sovereign choice to either
> accept
>>>> or to reject the idea that God exists. No one is intimidated into
>>>> believing. No one is preprogrammed as a puppet. We are all entirely
>>>> free to make our own sovereign choice on this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Believe in me and follow all of my commandments, or I will see to it
>>> that you will burn in hellfire and suffer torment for all eternity!"
>>>
>>> That's not intimidation?
>>>
>> Did it intimidate you into believing in God?
>>
>> Go against God's will and trouble is likely on down the line. It's
>> like trying to break one or some of God's natural laws. If one walks
>> out into the very cold Arctic region without adequate clothing they
>> will freeze to death. Is God punishing them for being disobedient?
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>    If one walks into a church and an earthquake kills
> you while worshipping is God punishing you for being
> obedient?

No, he is punishing the congregation for

[ ] tolerating gay marriage
[ ] tolerating gays and witches to live
[ ] failure to obey one of god's 600+ laws
[ ] failure to combat that spawn of satan Obama
[ ] having an adulterer, thief or other sinner in their midst
[ ] some of the faithful signing up to the new healthcare system
[ ] not wiping the local abortion clinic off the face of the earth
[ ] letting women speak up for themselves
[ ] not beating their children enough
[ ] having the temerity of testing god's love by building in an 
earthquake zone


and sundry other reasons I can't be bothered to type out right now...

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 08:44 -0700
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:25 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 16:18 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 18:26 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-28 20:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 07:02 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:11 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 08:40 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-29 20:52 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 07:30 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-30 09:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 12:26 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-30 12:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-30 15:06 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 15:22 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 18:13 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-30 20:18 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-01 06:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-01 08:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-01 19:49 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-01 15:45 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-02 20:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-03 16:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 22:28 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-04 08:45 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-04 20:12 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 10:56 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:17 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:30 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 10:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:34 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 19:45 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-01 19:08 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 21:10 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-02 11:57 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-03 07:20 +1000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 06:40 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:52 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 12:30 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-02 12:40 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 12:47 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-02 13:35 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 14:29 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 14:28 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kit <kitwax@netzero.com> - 2015-07-02 12:32 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 14:46 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kit <kitwax@netzero.com> - 2015-07-02 13:16 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 16:39 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-02 21:09 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kit <kitwax@netzero.com> - 2015-07-03 00:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 20:12 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-02 14:48 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 05:32 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-03 07:42 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-03 09:25 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-03 11:47 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 20:23 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 16:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-03 16:09 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 22:09 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-03 16:07 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:43 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:32 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-30 15:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 15:25 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:33 +0000
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:43 -0400
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              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:29 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-30 15:53 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:36 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:37 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 07:04 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:13 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 08:41 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-29 17:10 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-29 17:12 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-29 17:46 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 05:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 03:59 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 07:29 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 15:46 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 09:09 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-02 18:30 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:54 -0400
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:46 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-30 23:55 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-01 19:58 +0000
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-01 15:47 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-01 19:36 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 11:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 19:05 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-01 06:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-01 08:55 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-01 19:11 -0700
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:23 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-03 16:17 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 12:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 08:23 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 06:38 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 10:25 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:10 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:49 -0500
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              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 19:06 -0700
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:40 -0500
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-01 18:41 -0700
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                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-03 14:54 -0700
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