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  Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-21 13:11 -0700
    Re: Near True Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-21 15:04 -0700
      Re: Near True David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-06-21 19:19 -0500
    Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-05 19:01 -0700
      Re: Near True Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 14:37 -0700
      Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-07 20:22 -0700
        Re: Near True Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 12:47 -0700
          Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-08 14:26 -0700
        Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-09 10:52 -0700
          Re: Near True Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 15:03 -0700
          Re: Near True palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 19:10 -0700
            Re: Near True Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 06:36 -0700
          Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-10 22:41 -0500
        Re: Near True Arc Michael <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-13 13:36 -0700
          Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:10 -0700
            Re: Near True benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 03:00 -0400
              Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-14 11:34 -0500
          Re: Near True Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-07-14 10:04 -0700
            Re: Near True "Notroll2015" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-07-14 12:17 -0500
    Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-08 00:21 -0500
    Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-10 19:41 -0700
      Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-10 19:43 -0700
        Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 21:45 -0700
          Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 12:11 -0700
          Re: Near True moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-13 20:00 +0000
            Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 15:53 -0700
              Re: Near True moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-14 02:51 +0000
                Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 22:48 -0700
                  Re: Near True moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-07-14 15:28 +0000
                  Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-14 10:47 -0500
                    Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-14 10:34 -0700
                    Re: Near True HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 07:14 -0400
              Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 13:55 -0700
                Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 20:52 -0700
                  Re: Near True The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-29 11:48 -0700
                Near True2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-01 23:54 -0700
                  Re: Near True2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-02 00:57 -0700
                    Re: Near True2 Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 04:36 -0700
                    Re: Near True2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-02 12:37 -0700
                      Re: Near True2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-02 14:04 -0700
                        Re: Near True2 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-02 17:35 -0700
                  Re: Near True2 Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 04:39 -0700
    Re: Near True Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-10 22:37 -0500

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#270810

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 1:11:33 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > What does "Near True" mean?
> >
> > NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> > http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
> >
> >
> >
> > With these guys and their fraudalent picutres...nothing from them is
> > nearest to the truth. I woud say billions and billions of miles away
> > from the Truth....youknowatimean?
> 
> It means that the colors in the image are nearly the same as  what you would see if you looked directly at Pluto with your eyes.
> Often in space probes, the color channels used for imaging don't necessarily correspond to the spectral sensitivities of the human eye.  Scientists are often interested in >images made from parts of the spectrum outside the range of human vision.  
>Color images made in such a manner are referred to as "false" color.  
>The purpose is utilitarian, but idiots think the purpose is deception.

It's called "false" color because it's....false.

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#270811

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 1:11:33 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > What does "Near True" mean?
> > >
> > > NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> > > http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With these guys and their fraudalent picutres...nothing from them is
> > > nearest to the truth. I woud say billions and billions of miles away
> > > from the Truth....youknowatimean?
> >
> > It means that the colors in the image are nearly the same as  what you would see if you looked directly at Pluto with your eyes.
> > Often in space probes, the color channels used for imaging don't necessarily correspond to the spectral sensitivities of the human eye.  Scientists are often interested in >images made from parts of the spectrum outside the range of human vision.
> >Color images made in such a manner are referred to as "false" color.
> >The purpose is utilitarian, but idiots think the purpose is deception.
> 
> It's called "false" color because it's....false.


false
fôls/
adjective
adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest

    1.
    not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
    "the test can produce false results"
    synonyms:	incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; More
    untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
    counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
    "a false report"
    antonyms:	correct, truthful
        not according with rules or law.
        "false imprisonment"
    2.
    appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
    "check to see if the trunk has a false bottom"

https://www.google.com/#q=define+false

False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.

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#270896

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:42:54 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 1:11:33 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > What does "Near True" mean?
> > > > >
> > > > > NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> > > > > http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With these guys and their fraudalent picutres...nothing from them is
> > > > > nearest to the truth. I woud say billions and billions of miles away
> > > > > from the Truth....youknowatimean?
> > > >
> > > > It means that the colors in the image are nearly the same as  what you would see if you looked directly at Pluto with your eyes.
> > > > Often in space probes, the color channels used for imaging don't necessarily correspond to the spectral sensitivities of the human eye.  Scientists are often interested in >images made from parts of the spectrum outside the range of human vision.
> > > >Color images made in such a manner are referred to as "false" color.
> > > >The purpose is utilitarian, but idiots think the purpose is deception.
> > >
> > > It's called "false" color because it's....false.
> >
> >
> > false
> > fôls/
> > adjective
> > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
> >
> >     1.
> >     not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
> >     "the test can produce false results"
> >     synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; More
> >     untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
> >     counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
> >     "a false report"
> >     antonyms: correct, truthful
> >         not according with rules or law.
> >         "false imprisonment"
> >     2.
> >     appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
> >     "check to see if the trunk has a false bottom"
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+false
> >
> > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> 
> Wow you're dumb.  Even a 5-year-old knows better than that.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/false
Full Definition of FALSE
1
:  not genuine <false documents> <false teeth>
2
a :  intentionally untrue <false testimony>
b :  adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom>
c :  intended or tending to mislead <a false promise>
3
:  not true <false concepts>
4
a :  not faithful or loyal :  treacherous <a false friend>
b :  lacking naturalness or sincerity <false sympathy>
5
a :  not essential or permanent —used of parts of a structure that are temporary or supplemental
b :  fitting over a main part to strengthen it, to protect it, or to disguise its appearance <a false ceiling>
6
:  inaccurate in pitch <a false note>
7
a :  based on mistaken ideas <false pride>
b :  inconsistent with the facts <a false position> <a false sense of security>
8
:  threateningly sudden or deceptive <don't make any false moves> 
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/false


False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.



Do you have a different dictionary?

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#270912

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:42:54 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 1:11:33 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > What does "Near True" mean?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> > > > > > http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With these guys and their fraudalent picutres...nothing from them is
> > > > > > nearest to the truth. I woud say billions and billions of miles away
> > > > > > from the Truth....youknowatimean?
> > > > >
> > > > > It means that the colors in the image are nearly the same as  what you would see if you looked directly at Pluto with your eyes.
> > > > > Often in space probes, the color channels used for imaging don't necessarily correspond to the spectral sensitivities of the human eye.  Scientists are often interested in >images made from parts of the spectrum outside the range of human vision.
> > > > >Color images made in such a manner are referred to as "false" color.
> > > > >The purpose is utilitarian, but idiots think the purpose is deception.
> > > >
> > > > It's called "false" color because it's....false.
> > >
> > >
> > > false
> > > fôls/
> > > adjective
> > > adjective: false; comparative adjective: falser; superlative adjective: falsest
> > >
> > >     1.
> > >     not according with truth or fact; incorrect.
> > >     "the test can produce false results"
> > >     synonyms: incorrect, untrue, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, imprecise; More
> > >     untruthful, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, trumped up, unfounded, spurious;
> > >     counterfeit, forged, fraudulent
> > >     "a false report"
> > >     antonyms: correct, truthful
> > >         not according with rules or law.
> > >         "false imprisonment"
> > >     2.
> > >     appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to deceive.
> > >     "check to see if the trunk has a false bottom"
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+false
> > >
> > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> >
> > Wow you're dumb.  Even a 5-year-old knows better than that.
> 
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/false
> Full Definition of FALSE
> 1
> :  not genuine <false documents> <false teeth>
> 2
> a :  intentionally untrue <false testimony>
> b :  adjusted or made so as to deceive <false scales> <a trunk with a false bottom>
> c :  intended or tending to mislead <a false promise>
> 3
> :  not true <false concepts>
> 4
> a :  not faithful or loyal :  treacherous <a false friend>
> b :  lacking naturalness or sincerity <false sympathy>
> 5
> a :  not essential or permanent —used of parts of a structure that are temporary or supplemental
> b :  fitting over a main part to strengthen it, to protect it, or to disguise its appearance <a false ceiling>
> 6
> :  inaccurate in pitch <a false note>
> 7
> a :  based on mistaken ideas <false pride>
> b :  inconsistent with the facts <a false position> <a false sense of security>
> 8
> :  threateningly sudden or deceptive <don't make any false moves>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/false
> 
> False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> 
> Do you have a different dictionary?


Okay, what color is the planet Pluto, is it Red, or is it Blue? It's either one or the other...Red or Blue? Throw in
the 'false color' if you like...is it false Red or false Blue?

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#270916

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> 
> Do you have a different dictionary?

How NASA uses the term:

http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html

Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color

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#270920

Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> 
> > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> >
> > Do you have a different dictionary?
> 
> How NASA uses the term:
> 
> http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> 
> Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color


Okay, yours user-edited website reads:

A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color


Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?



https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ

dif·fer
'dif?r/
verb
verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing

    be unlike or dissimilar.
    "the second set of data differed from the first"
    synonyms:	contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
    "the second set of data differed from the first"
    antonyms:	resemble
        disagree.
        "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
        synonyms:	disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
        "the two sides differed over this issue"
        antonyms:	agree

https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ



In other words...False_color

A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.

A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.

A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.




I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'




'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.


it's truly false...

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#270925

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>> How NASA uses the term:
>> 
>> http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
>> 
>> Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color


>Okay, yours user-edited website reads:

>A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 
>differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.

That's all you need to know.

Think of an old-time color photograph negative.  That's a false color
image, but one from which a true color image can be recreated.
A black-and-white photograph is also false color.

Sometimes false color is the only way to do it.  Like a photo in the
infrared or ultraviolet.  You *must* use false color for that, what would
a true-color infrared photograph look like?

IR and UV can show details not visible in visible light.  Ever see a photo
of flowers in the ultraviolet, the way a bee would see it?  Can't do it
without false color.  I have a false color aerial photograph of where I
live from 20 years ago.  It's in infrared and visible light.  Infrared is
shown as red.  Healthy vegetation (farm fields, golf courses etc.) show up
as bright red as healthy vegetation reflects IR very well.  Not so healthy
vegetation as dull red or pinkish.  It shows the health in much more
detail than just looking at it, as both look green.

>I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, 
>not according with truth or fact.'

How can it be meant to deceive if they explicitly say it's false color?
Esp. when they explicitly give color mapping, like my USGS false color
photograph?  It says that infrared appears as red, red as green and green
as blue, as well as giving the actual wavelengths.

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#270927

Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> 
> >Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>
> >> How NASA uses the term:
> >>
> >> http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> >>
> >> Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> 
> >Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> 
> >A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that
> >differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> 
> That's all you need to know.
> 
> Think of an old-time color photograph negative.  That's a false color
> image, but one from which a true color image can be recreated.
> A black-and-white photograph is also false color.
> 
> Sometimes false color is the only way to do it.  Like a photo in the
> infrared or ultraviolet.  You *must* use false color for that, what would
> a true-color infrared photograph look like?
> 
> IR and UV can show details not visible in visible light.  Ever see a photo
> of flowers in the ultraviolet, the way a bee would see it?  Can't do it
> without false color.  I have a false color aerial photograph of where I
> live from 20 years ago.  It's in infrared and visible light.  Infrared is
> shown as red.  Healthy vegetation (farm fields, golf courses etc.) show up
> as bright red as healthy vegetation reflects IR very well.  Not so healthy
> vegetation as dull red or pinkish.  It shows the health in much more
> detail than just looking at it, as both look green.
> 
> >I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect,
> >not according with truth or fact.'
> 
> How can it be meant to deceive if they explicitly say it's false color?
> Esp. when they explicitly give color mapping, like my USGS false color
> photograph?  It says that infrared appears as red, red as green and green
> as blue, as well as giving the actual wavelengths.

I think you got lost somewhere...

The Subject heading of this threads reads? "Near True".

then I posted NASA article:

NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto 
http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/


They didn't write false colors...

somebody came into my thread and added "false colors" which was never mentioned in the news...


"false colors" was not mentioned in the news...


What was mentioned was 'near-true color' and simulated true-colour ....but no mentioned of the words "false colors".


Tell your News Science People that I said to put in the Headline  "false colors", instead of 
'near-true color' and "simulated true-colour", okay?


Because everybody knows what "false" means.


So the average person can say..."Oh, it's fuckin fake color photos!"

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#270933

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>I think you got lost somewhere...

>The Subject heading of this threads reads? "Near True".

>then I posted NASA article:

>NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto 
>http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/

Even better.  So now you know the colors are close but not exact.  Since
they told you that, there's no deception.

>somebody came into my thread

No such thing.

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#270934

On 7/14/2015 12:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Michael Moroney wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>>
>>> Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How NASA uses the term:
>>>>
>>>> http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
>>>>
>>>> Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
>>
>>> Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
>>
>>> A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that
>>> differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
>>
>> That's all you need to know.
>>
>> Think of an old-time color photograph negative.  That's a false color
>> image, but one from which a true color image can be recreated.
>> A black-and-white photograph is also false color.
>>
>> Sometimes false color is the only way to do it.  Like a photo in the
>> infrared or ultraviolet.  You *must* use false color for that, what would
>> a true-color infrared photograph look like?
>>
>> IR and UV can show details not visible in visible light.  Ever see a photo
>> of flowers in the ultraviolet, the way a bee would see it?  Can't do it
>> without false color.  I have a false color aerial photograph of where I
>> live from 20 years ago.  It's in infrared and visible light.  Infrared is
>> shown as red.  Healthy vegetation (farm fields, golf courses etc.) show up
>> as bright red as healthy vegetation reflects IR very well.  Not so healthy
>> vegetation as dull red or pinkish.  It shows the health in much more
>> detail than just looking at it, as both look green.
>>
>>> I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect,
>>> not according with truth or fact.'
>>
>> How can it be meant to deceive if they explicitly say it's false color?
>> Esp. when they explicitly give color mapping, like my USGS false color
>> photograph?  It says that infrared appears as red, red as green and green
>> as blue, as well as giving the actual wavelengths.
>
> I think you got lost somewhere...
>
> The Subject heading of this threads reads? "Near True".
>
> then I posted NASA article:
>
> NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
>
>
> They didn't write false colors...

if they are not TRUE COLORS, they are FALSE COLORS.  Simple.

>
> somebody came into my thread and added "false colors" which was never mentioned in the news...

"near-true" is "not true", which means it is "false".

and "someone" had to correct your faulty thinking,
which may be "near-true", but "not true", so "faulty thinking" it is.

>
>
> "false colors" was not mentioned in the news...
>
>
> What was mentioned was 'near-true color' and simulated true-colour ....but no mentioned of the words "false colors".
>
>
> Tell your News Science People that I said to put in the Headline  "false colors", instead of
> 'near-true color' and "simulated true-colour", okay?

absolutly, I will get right on it, but they will ask, How False?
then what?


>
>
> Because everybody knows what "false" means.

false is near-true.

>
>
> So the average person can say..."Oh, it's fuckin fake color photos!"
>

the color on your computer screen is false too.

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#270941

Simoen wrote:
> 
> On 7/14/2015 12:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> How NASA uses the term:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> >>
> >>> Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> >>
> >>> A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that
> >>> differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >>
> >> That's all you need to know.
> >>
> >> Think of an old-time color photograph negative.  That's a false color
> >> image, but one from which a true color image can be recreated.
> >> A black-and-white photograph is also false color.
> >>
> >> Sometimes false color is the only way to do it.  Like a photo in the
> >> infrared or ultraviolet.  You *must* use false color for that, what would
> >> a true-color infrared photograph look like?
> >>
> >> IR and UV can show details not visible in visible light.  Ever see a photo
> >> of flowers in the ultraviolet, the way a bee would see it?  Can't do it
> >> without false color.  I have a false color aerial photograph of where I
> >> live from 20 years ago.  It's in infrared and visible light.  Infrared is
> >> shown as red.  Healthy vegetation (farm fields, golf courses etc.) show up
> >> as bright red as healthy vegetation reflects IR very well.  Not so healthy
> >> vegetation as dull red or pinkish.  It shows the health in much more
> >> detail than just looking at it, as both look green.
> >>
> >>> I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect,
> >>> not according with truth or fact.'
> >>
> >> How can it be meant to deceive if they explicitly say it's false color?
> >> Esp. when they explicitly give color mapping, like my USGS false color
> >> photograph?  It says that infrared appears as red, red as green and green
> >> as blue, as well as giving the actual wavelengths.
> >
> > I think you got lost somewhere...
> >
> > The Subject heading of this threads reads? "Near True".
> >
> > then I posted NASA article:
> >
> > NASA publishes 1st 'near-true color' images of Pluto
> > http://rt.com/usa/268678-nasa-first-pluto-images/
> >
> >
> > They didn't write false colors...
> 
> if they are not TRUE COLORS, they are FALSE COLORS.  Simple.
> 
> >
> > somebody came into my thread and added "false colors" which was never mentioned in the news...
> 
> "near-true" is "not true", which means it is "false".
> 
> and "someone" had to correct your faulty thinking,
> which may be "near-true", but "not true", so "faulty thinking" it is.
> 
> >
> >
> > "false colors" was not mentioned in the news...
> >
> >
> > What was mentioned was 'near-true color' and simulated true-colour ....but no mentioned of the words "false colors".
> >
> >
> > Tell your News Science People that I said to put in the Headline  "false colors", instead of
> > 'near-true color' and "simulated true-colour", okay?
> 
> absolutly, I will get right on it, but they will ask, How False?
> then what?
> 
> >
> >
> > Because everybody knows what "false" means.
> 
> false is near-true.
> 
> >
> >
> > So the average person can say..."Oh, it's fuckin fake color photos!"
> >
> 
> the color on your computer screen is false too.


it's near true.

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#271037

On 7/14/2015 11:47 AM, Simoen wrote:
>
>> Because everybody knows what "false" means.
>
> false is near-true.
>
>>
>>
>> So the average person can say..."Oh, it's fuckin fake color photos!"
>>
>
> the color on your computer screen is false too.


Personally, I like the false color images better. Raw astronomy images 
are for the most part, boring.


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#271312

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a different dictionary?
> > >
> > > How NASA uses the term:
> > >
> > > http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> > >
> > > Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> >
> >
> > Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> >
> >
> > Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> >
> > dif搭er
> > 'dif?r/
> > verb
> > verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing
> >
> >     be unlike or dissimilar.
> >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> >     synonyms: contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
> >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> >     antonyms: resemble
> >         disagree.
> >         "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
> >         synonyms:     disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
> >         "the two sides differed over this issue"
> >         antonyms:     agree
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> >
> >
> >
> > In other words...False_color
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> >
> >
> > it's truly false...
> 
> Of course people who aren't imbeciles know that the purpose of false color images isn't deception.  Even a 5-year-old knows that "false" doesn't always mean "deceptive".



https://www.google.com/#q=define+false


appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to
deceive.

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#271372

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you have a different dictionary?
> > > > >
> > > > > How NASA uses the term:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > > >
> > > > dif搭er
> > > > 'dif?r/
> > > > verb
> > > > verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing
> > > >
> > > >     be unlike or dissimilar.
> > > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > > >     synonyms: contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
> > > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > > >     antonyms: resemble
> > > >         disagree.
> > > >         "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
> > > >         synonyms:     disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
> > > >         "the two sides differed over this issue"
> > > >         antonyms:     agree
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In other words...False_color
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > it's truly false...
> > >
> > > Of course people who aren't imbeciles know that the purpose of false color images isn't deception.  Even a 5-year-old knows that "false" doesn't always mean "deceptive".
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+false
> >
> >
> > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to
> > deceive.
> 
> Again you prove that you are so stupid that you can't even use a dictionary properly.
> Like many other words, "false" has several meanings.  You pick one of them and insist that it must apply to all circumstances.  You are an idiot.



No, I didn't pick or cheery pick a meaning to fit my bias, I picked the meaning that NASA meant to do, ...to deliberately deceive.


deliberately
deceive

period.

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#271440

pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 8:52:45 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > pcardinale@volcanomail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > False color means...meant to deceive. incorrect, not according with truth or fact.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you have a different dictionary?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How NASA uses the term:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question20.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, yours user-edited website reads:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that differ from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_color
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, can you translate that into...English? Or do i have to translate it for you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dif搭er
> > > > > > 'dif?r/
> > > > > > verb
> > > > > > verb: differ; 3rd person present: differs; past tense: differed; past participle: differed; gerund or present participle: differing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     be unlike or dissimilar.
> > > > > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > > > > >     synonyms: contrast with, be different from, be dissimilar to, be unlike, vary from, diverge from, deviate from, conflict with, run counter to, be incompatible with, be at odds with, go against, contradict
> > > > > >     "the second set of data differed from the first"
> > > > > >     antonyms: resemble
> > > > > >         disagree.
> > > > > >         "he differed from his contemporaries in ethical matters"
> > > > > >         synonyms:     disagree, conflict, be at variance, be at odds, be in dispute, not see eye to eye
> > > > > >         "the two sides differed over this issue"
> > > > > >         antonyms:     agree
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+differ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words...False_color
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'disagree' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A false-color image is an image that depicts an object in colors that 'conflict' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't see any difference....it's still 'meant to deceive, incorrect, not according with truth or fact.'
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'unlike' from those a photograph (a "true-color" image) would show.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it's truly false...
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course people who aren't imbeciles know that the purpose of false color images isn't deception.  Even a 5-year-old knows that "false" doesn't always mean "deceptive".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+false
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > appearing to be the thing denoted; deliberately made or meant to
> > > > deceive.
> > >
> > > Again you prove that you are so stupid that you can't even use a dictionary properly.
> > > Like many other words, "false" has several meanings.  You pick one of them and insist that it must apply to all circumstances.  You are an idiot.
> >
> >
> >
> > No, I didn't pick or cheery pick a meaning to fit my bias, I picked the meaning that NASA meant to do, ...to deliberately deceive.
> >
> >
> > deliberately
> > deceive
> >
> > period.
> 
> Liar.



Is that the same thing as...Near True?

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#271515 — Near True2

okay
I'll look at it and give you my findings...

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA19637
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/07/31/stunning-photo-saturn-moon-reveals-red-hued-mystery/?intcmp=hphz10


but h.g.wells will tell you it's martian canals...

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#271516 — Re: Near True2

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> okay
> I'll look at it and give you my findings...
> 
> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA19637
> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
> http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/07/31/stunning-photo-saturn-moon-reveals-red-hued-mystery/?intcmp=hphz10
> 
> but h.g.wells will tell you it's martian canals...



didn't take too long to figure out what it is...



That's it!


http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg



it's damaged.

those ain't red streaks...it's magneta damaged color...


forget about the red streaks..
look at the
craters at the left with light blueish rings
and all that yellow and green stuff....

it looks like
one of those
red, green, blue
cellophane people
use to put
on their black and white tv sets
to see Bonanza in color.


is this all they got for us????


damaged goods?



the worse photograph by NASA ever taken!

not even near true color....more like near broken color.

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#271519 — Re: Near True2

PERCIVAL LOWELL THOUGHT THERE WERE MARTIAN CANALS...

HE WAS WRONG TOO, YOU FUCKING FAKE KOOK!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 00:57:00 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> okay
>> I'll look at it and give you my findings...
>> 
>> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA19637
>> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
>> http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/07/31/stunning-photo-saturn-moon-reveals-red-hued-mystery/?intcmp=hphz10
>> 
>> but h.g.wells will tell you it's martian canals...
>
>
>didn't take too long to figure out what it is...
>
>
>
>That's it!
>
>
>http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
>
>
>it's damaged.
>
>those ain't red streaks...it's magneta damaged color...
>
>
>forget about the red streaks..
>look at the
>craters at the left with light blueish rings
>and all that yellow and green stuff....
>
>it looks like
>one of those
>red, green, blue
>cellophane people
>use to put
>on their black and white tv sets
>to see Bonanza in color.
>
>
>is this all they got for us????
>
>
>damaged goods?
>
>
>the worse photograph by NASA ever taken!
>
>not even near true color....more like near broken color.

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#271544 — Re: Near True2

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > okay
> > I'll look at it and give you my findings...
> >
> > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA19637
> > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
> > http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/07/31/stunning-photo-saturn-moon-reveals-red-hued-mystery/?intcmp=hphz10
> >
> > but h.g.wells will tell you it's martian canals...
> 
> didn't take too long to figure out what it is...
> 
> That's it!
> 
> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
> 
> it's damaged.
> 
> those ain't red streaks...it's magneta damaged color...
> 
> forget about the red streaks..
> look at the
> craters at the left with light blueish rings
> and all that yellow and green stuff....
> 
> it looks like
> one of those
> red, green, blue
> cellophane people
> use to put
> on their black and white tv sets
> to see Bonanza in color.
> 
> is this all they got for us????
> 
> damaged goods?
> 
> the worse photograph by NASA ever taken!
> 
> not even near true color....more like near broken color.

I figured out who is doing NASA's color processing....Stevie Wonder!

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#271550 — Re: Near True2

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > okay
> > > I'll look at it and give you my findings...
> > >
> > > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA19637
> > > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
> > > http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/07/31/stunning-photo-saturn-moon-reveals-red-hued-mystery/?intcmp=hphz10
> > >
> > > but h.g.wells will tell you it's martian canals...
> >
> > didn't take too long to figure out what it is...
> >
> > That's it!
> >
> > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA19637_hires.jpg
> >
> > it's damaged.
> >
> > those ain't red streaks...it's magneta damaged color...
> >
> > forget about the red streaks..
> > look at the
> > craters at the left with light blueish rings
> > and all that yellow and green stuff....
> >
> > it looks like
> > one of those
> > red, green, blue
> > cellophane people
> > use to put
> > on their black and white tv sets
> > to see Bonanza in color.
> >
> > is this all they got for us????
> >
> > damaged goods?
> >
> > the worse photograph by NASA ever taken!
> >
> > not even near true color....more like near broken color.
> 
> I figured out who is doing NASA's color processing....Stevie Wonder!


And the problem is of course with NASA's management...
they should never let that photo reach the media..
they obviously don't have 'quality control' setup.

I have this program...
what this program does is
enhances all the colors
except one color...Red.

It's used
for people who take a color photo
and want to enhance all the color
in the photo except the Red color.

So...
I run it through...
and guess what happen?

The opposite happen!
The Red got enhanced and all the
other colors remain the same!!?!

Now, how is that possible?

I always use this program
when I want to enhance all
the colors except Red..
always..

and all of a sudden
all the RED gets enhanced!

All the other colors remain
un enhanced!?

How is this possible?

The only answer is..
those are not Red streaks!

They are Blue. 

Shadow blue.


The red streaks are shadows
which in color photos show up as dark blue.


https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=871&q=night+photos+of+mountains&oq=night+photos+of+mountains&gs_l=img.3...2987.12344.0.12696.25.25.0.0.0.0.152.2044.23j2.25.0..2..0...1.1.64.img..7.18.1542.i8ZXvFPWbVE



Just do a Google Image search of "night photos of mountains" and you'll see what color are shadows.


Obvisouly, quality control is on....vacation.


And Stevie Wonder is working there part-time.


Don't send any rockets up in July.



The Starmaker

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