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Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave

From Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com>
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Subject Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave
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R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> writes:

> |"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
> |> "R Kym Horsell"  wrote in message
> |> news:11a9dhr$17b2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com...
> |> Jim Wilkins:
> |> Even Pluto is suspected of having a buried liquid water ocean.
> |> Charon is suspected of at least once having a subterranean ocean.
> |> If KBO's are similar, and given the other gas giants have a dozen
> |> moons suspected of current salty oceans, it may turn out to be
> |> living underground is normal and Earth is the odd guy out having
> |> lots of action on the surface.
> |> -------------------------------------
> |> Earth is already strange for maintaining a high concentration of a
> |> reactive gas, oxygen.
> |> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6014580/
> |It's a critical component for the cycle of life on earth.
> |Daniel
>
> Even more interesting, the salinity of some of the oceans on various moons
> is beleived to be within striking range of Earth's oceans.
>
> E.g. last guess I saw for Enceldus was 4-40 g/kg with Earth std around 35.
> Salinity and dissolved oxygen in liquid water are inversely related no 
> matter where thay are which may hint that DO in Enceledus' ocean is also 
> in ballpark range of Earth, maybe even higher (if less saline than 35%%).
>
> I'm hoping to ask someone that knows, eventually. :)

Our moon having subsurface water would be a shocker to me. Though if it
did, it would have come from earth, so earth-like salination ratios
wouldn't be surprising.

The other moons, not so much. I mean, everything formed out of the same nebula
after all. So if a subsurface water ocean were seriously present on
Enceladus would it surprise you that it, too, is salinated?

Isn't this all conjecture though? Many things scientists have
predicted about our solar system turned out differently. I've adopted a
'wait-and-see' attitude and lean on no assumptions or hypothesis.

Speaking on salination, I wasn't expecting Mars soil to be as hostile to
organic life as it is.  Watching the character grow potatoes with
martian soil in "The Martian" had me laughing out loud in the
theater. My wife glared at me.

-- 
Daniel
sysop  | air & wave bbs
finger | info@bbs.airandwave.net

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This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2026-10-08 08:14 -0700
  Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 18:15 -0400
    Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-09 00:46 +0000
      Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-08 21:13 -0400
        Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com> - 2026-10-12 19:38 -0700
          Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-13 03:30 +0000
            Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 10:08 -0400
            Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com> - 2026-10-13 09:57 -0700
              Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 16:08 -0400
              Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Kualinar <kuakinar@videotron.ca> - 2026-10-14 10:11 -0400
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 16:32 +0000
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com> - 2026-10-14 14:14 -0700
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-18 05:25 +0000
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-18 07:10 -0400
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-18 19:53 +0000
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-18 18:01 -0400
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-19 00:23 +0000
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-19 08:04 -0400
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-19 09:33 -0400
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 18:42 -0400
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com> - 2026-10-17 10:40 -0700
                Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Rockinghorse Winner <Rockinghorse@amgen.com> - 2026-10-18 02:38 +0000
              Re: This mysterious hole on the Moon may open into a giant cave Rockinghorse Winner <Rockinghorse@amgen.com> - 2026-10-18 02:37 +0000

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