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Re: The Origin of Gravity

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: The Origin of Gravity
Date 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
Organization Netfront http://www.netfront.net/
Message-ID <5B085C43.78E2@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
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benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/25/2018 1:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/24/2018 7:52 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/24/2018 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> benj wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/23/2018 10:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> before the big bang...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> stars in the universe were like..
> >>>>>>>> a dozen eggs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> without breaking
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> you need gravity to hold each one
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> to stop it from breaking..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Now,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> is what kept the eggs
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem with describing
> >>>>>>>> The Origin of Gravity is
> >>>>>>>> using 'words' to describe it..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> math won't do..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and it is very differcult to picture..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> let's take a dozen eggs...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> all laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side...evenly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That is how it looked before the big bang..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now open the box of eggs and
> >>>>>>> turn it upside down so they can all
> >>>>>>> fall down..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you look on the floor and you got this
> >>>>>>> big mess..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> eggs everywhere..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but, before they were all
> >>>>>>> laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and then they fell out of the box...but
> >>>>>>> each egg fell out in a straight line.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now
> >>>>>>> galaxies...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but, but...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> before the big bang..
> >>>>>>> all stars were
> >>>>>>> laid out next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side, evenly...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and during the big bang they
> >>>>>>> all went out in a straight line..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but looking at the universe today...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> it appears they are all scattered out..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but they are not.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> so, what
> >>>>>>> laid out the stars next to each other
> >>>>>>> side by side, evenly?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *      *       *       *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>        *    *
> >>>>>>>                *
> >>>>>>>                     *
> >>>>>>>                            *
> >>>>>>>                    *
> >>>>>>>                          *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      *    .  *       .             *
> >>>>>>>                              *
> >>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>>>>>        .     *
> >>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
> >>>>>>>            .                .        .
> >>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>>>>>                                  .
> >>>>>>>              *          .   *
> >>>>>>> *    *
> >>>>>>>                *
> >>>>>>>                     *
> >>>>>>>      .    .                  *
> >>>>>>>                    *
> >>>>>>>                          *
> >>>>>>> .        .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *    .  *       .             *
> >>>>>>>                              *
> >>>>>>>      *   .        *       .       .       *
> >>>>>>>        .     *
> >>>>>>>                .     .  *        *
> >>>>>>>            .                .        .
> >>>>>>> .  *           *                     *
> >>>>>>>                                  .
> >>>>>>>              *          .   *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> from order to disorder..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Utter nonsense.
> >>>>>> There was no Big Bang.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in terms that you can understand.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today..
> >>>>>
> >>>> And the way you know today is steady state would be?
> >>>> You are digging a hole deeper and deeper Faker.
> >>>> Give it up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't get it...you obviously have health issues..
> >>>
> >>> i wrote:  "The universe went (transformed) *from* steady state *to* what you have today.."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "from"! Do you know the definition of from?
> >>>
> >>> and "to".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> from and to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is 3rd grade level reading to high for you????
> >>>
> >>> I can try for 2nd grade level but you're not going to get any milk and cookies...
> >>>
> >>
> >> Don't try to change the subject, faker. It's not a matter of "from" and
> >> "to" it is a matter of you drooling one about thing of which you have no
> >> knowledge whatsoever. As a lib you think if you can imagine it, that
> >> makes it reality. Just lay off your stash for a while, Faker.
> >>
> >> The BB is supposed to be a SINGULARITY. You have no idea what that
> >> fantasy is. I suggest you learn and then come back here.
> >
> >
> >
> > SINGULARITY????  Where do you get your info from...scientist? Where did they get their info from?? a catholic priest??
> >
> Today in science they mostly get it the same place you get yours: Drug
> induced fantasies. This is the Lib idea of what "science" is, right?
> 
> Faker get it through your pointy head that a lib CANNOT bullshit their
> way through science. It's not possible. Eventually reality catches up
> with you.


you keep using "lib" in your statements...wat is dat?

which one is it? Let It Bleed???? Lithium-Ion Battery? 



LIB	Library
LIB	Library (File Name Extension)
LIB	Let It Be (Beatles album)
LIB	Liberal Party (Canada)
LIB	Libertarian Party (United States)
LIB	Label Information Base (MPLS)
LIB	Let It Bleed (Rolling Stones album)
LIB	Light Infantry Brigade
LIB	League of Illinois Bicyclists (Aurora, IL)
LIB	Laser Induced Breakdown
LIB	limited international bidding
LIB	Linear Incremental Backoff
LIB	Linguistic Intergroup Bias (language use in intergroup contexts)
LIB	Less Important Bits (communications channel)
LIB	Lockton Insurance Brokers (California)
LIB	Left In Board (locations of aircraft underwing pylons)
LIB	Logistics Information Board
LIB	Living in Black
LIB	Lithium-Ion Battery
LIB	Lead Impression Block (well drilling)

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            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 19:04 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
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      Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
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            Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:49 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-25 19:48 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 15:50 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 14:35 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-29 18:40 -0700
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    Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
      Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:58 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-01 15:29 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:02 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-04 17:49 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-06-05 19:11 +1000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:27 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-29 13:37 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 15:14 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:23 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-30 14:22 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-07-01 19:29 +1000
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 14:38 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-01 12:31 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 10:24 +0200
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:00 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 19:10 +0200
                Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-03 13:39 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 12:49 -0700
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 13:41 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:00 -0700
          Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
            Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
              Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:53 -0700
                Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-01 15:31 -0700
        Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
          Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
            Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
              Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
                Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
  Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
    Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
      Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000

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