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Re: Earths

Message-ID <55B4887D.45CC@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2015-07-26 00:13 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.astronomy, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.math
Subject Re: Earths
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > alber wrote:
> > >
> > > On 7/25/2015 10:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >>>>> this is drake's equation N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L
> > > >>>>>
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> You don't have a scientific bone in your body and show yourself to
> > > >> be an idiot over and over again. The Drake Equation is one of the
> > > >> simplest concepts in all of science, and yet you apparently don't
> > > >> have any chance to understand it. I was only trying to help you,
> > > >> but that is like talking to a mud fence. As far as I am concerned,
> > > >> you are on your own, and good riddance.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Okay...get ready to commit suicide...(there is a sale of blue razor
> > > > blades at walmart...hurry.)
> > > >
> > > > N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L value of  "ne" is 2 (according to
> > > > Drake himself, and he was thinking of earth and mars)
> > > >
> > > > now, supose that number is wrong...
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > How many planets do you know that are
> > > >
> > > > "ecologically suitable for life"????
> > > >
> > >
> > > Lots, they have something like McDonald, and Wall marts, and Air
> > > Condition places.  Also they must have cars to get around the surface.
> > > OR swim fins if it is all water.
> > >   Actually How could I know, I have only been on one.
> >
> > Here is how Drake thought:
> >
> > "In our own solar system there are several bodies
> > that may be suitable for life of some sort: the Earth
> > certainly, and perhaps Mars, Titan and Jupiter. Once
> > life originates, it tends to be very adaptable and
> > tenacious. There must be many different environments
> > suitable for life in a given planetary system. But
> > conservatively we choose ne=2."
> >
> > Now,  Mars, Titan and Jupiter don't have a McDonald's....
> > so that means ne=2 is incorrect.
> >
> > Throw The Drake Equation into the garbage can where it belongs. It's garbage!
> 
> The next Drake random variable is the number
> ne of ‘‘Earth-type’’ planets in a given star system. Taking
> example from the Solar System, since only the Earth is
> truly ‘‘Earth-type’’, the mean value of
> ne is clearly 1, but the standard deviation is not zero if we assume that Mars
> also may be regarded as Earth-type. Since there are thus
> two Earth-type planets in the Solar System, we must
> assume a standard deviation of 1 =2 Earth and Mars.
> 
> Now, does anybody here think Mars is "ecologically suitable for life"?
> 
> Throw The Drake Equation into the garbage can where it belongs. It's garbage!
> 
> Trash.



I keep seeing the number 2 value for ne

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/54a472ad6da81119318b4569-960/drake%20equation%20table.png



Throw The Drake Equation into the garbage can where it belongs. It's garbage!

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