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| From | Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> |
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| Newsgroups | cam.misc |
| Subject | Re: Cambridge North car parking |
| Date | 2024-03-19 02:23 +0000 |
| Organization | Roland Perry |
| Message-ID | <yCUUVVvbcP+lFAYx@perry.uk> (permalink) |
| References | (14 earlier) <l5gs11F4spvU1@mid.individual.net> <UpwtfAwHPj9lFAnF@perry.uk> <o12evi9a12u27gs2dtv1sqls1hf1bs8rje@4ax.com> <4mwWcccJkH+lFAaX@perry.uk> <uta950$btrn$8@dont-email.me> |
In message <uta950$btrn$8@dont-email.me>, at 20:45:20 on Mon, 18 Mar 2024, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> remarked: >On 18/03/2024 17:25, Roland Perry wrote: >> In message <o12evi9a12u27gs2dtv1sqls1hf1bs8rje@4ax.com>, at 15:25:35 >>on Sun, 17 Mar 2024, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> >>remarked: >>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 00:05:27 +0000, Roland Perry >>><roland@perry.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The original SABRE used a direct-dial system straight into the central >>> mainframe (an IBM 7090 initially, later System/360) using a bespoke >>> protocol. >> Just the one, somewhere fairly central? >> >It's the IBM way. Always were a 'cloud' operation. > >>> The first iteration of EasySABRE operated over dial-up via >>> Compuserve and later AOL. >> That's an improvement. I was an avid user of CompuServe, but sadly >>the nearest POP was in London, which was a long distance call. >> >I dont recall it being so when I used it briefly. You used CompuServe from a rural Oxfordshire location? I didn't realise you got around quite so much. Well done for doing the comprehensive field research though. >>> It didn't become Internet based until the 90s. >> It would have, given when Internet connectivity became a thing. But >>we were talking at least a decade before. >> >>> Even in the Internet era it was capable of running over a dial-up >>> connection, right up to the point at which it closed down in 1999. >>>But most >>> travel agents typically had ISDN, until always-on broadband reached >>> widespread availability. >> The regulator (OFTEL) regarded ISDN as broadband, albeit the very >>lowest speed which qualified for that description - two channels >>bonded giving 128k. If anyone thinks ISDN is really baseband, they'll >>have to take that up with OFTEL (using a time machine). >> >Well it did cut out the modem. 128k is beyond the 'audio' bnamd, >anyway. > >> I think I first got ISDN at home in 2000/2001 via BT's Home Highway >>product, although one of the ISPs I was calling, had a whole two-line >>ISDN POP from about 1985/6, mainly for staff but I think we did >>publish the number. >> >I had it in 1993 or thereabouts. Effing expensive. > >As soon as ADSL arrived I dumped it. Yes, the advantage of ADSL was the (for the majority, but certainly not all subscribers) the unmetered 24x7 connectivity. Technical progress, who'd a thunk it. >> HH was a bit like early ADSL, it was rolled out fairly slowly and you >>needed to be living both near an enabled exchange (although, by the >>Millenium the majority were) and also not too far from the exchange if >>it was being delivered on copper/aluminium (which HH was); businesses >>who had ISDN PABX from the early 90's generally had to have fibre dug >> to them from the exchange, which wasn't cheap - about £15k in today's >>money, but at least it was a flat fee, not by distance. >> >£3000 to install ISDN trunk >> Then by 1999 there was a "secret" one-line ISDN POP inside one of the >>cabinets at LINX-Telehouse. Best connectivity on the planet. Best >>dial-up anyway. At our London office we had gigabit fibre - eat your >>heart out Openreach and FTTP. >> >willy waving If you've got it, flaunt it. Nor exactly unknown by several other contributors here and other like-minded newsgroups. I actually wanted to retail things like that, to certain chosen VIP customers, but LINX was prohibited by its constitution from competing with members. Perhaps it should have been written "prohibited from competing with its members if any one, just one of them, actually offered that service themselves". >> It had to be that fast because it was a ring connecting all the >>independent co-location data centres like Redbus and Interxion, and >>was carrying about half the entire UK's Internet traffic at any point >>in time. (It was before private peering, which later skimmed of lots >>of the ISP-ISP backbone traffic). Phew, a narrow escape, no quibbles with that paragraph, obviously. -- Roland Perry
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Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-14 16:19 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking pmaydell@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Peter Maydell) - 2024-03-15 09:15 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Michael Kilpatrick <news@mkilpatrick.co.uk> - 2024-03-14 14:17 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Michael Kilpatrick <news@mkilpatrick.co.uk> - 2024-03-14 14:40 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-14 16:25 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Michael Kilpatrick <news@mkilpatrick.co.uk> - 2024-03-14 17:01 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-17 07:46 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-14 16:22 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-03-13 16:41 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-13 19:59 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-08 17:18 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2024-03-08 17:16 +0000
Re: Cambridge North car parking Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> - 2024-03-07 11:54 +0000
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