Re: Whaddaya think?

From	James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Whaddaya think?
Date	2024-06-16 22:41 -0400
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On 6/16/24 12:20, DFS wrote:
> On 6/15/2024 6:22 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:
...
>>> 	return(0);
>>
>> A minor style point: a return statement doesn't require parentheses.
>> IMHO using parentheses make it look too much like a function call.  I'd
>> write `return 0;`, or more likely I'd just omit it, since falling off
>> the end of main does an implicit `return 0;` (starting in C99).
> 
> Can't omit it.  It's required by my brain.

The parentheses you're putting in are completely unrelated to the use of
parentheses in _Generic(), function calls, compound literals,
sizeof(type name), alignof(), _BitInt(), _Atomic(), typeof(),
typeof_unqual(), alignas(), function declarators, static_assert(), if(),
switch(for(), while(), do ... while(), function-like macro definitions
and invocations or cast expressions. In all of those cases, the
parentheses are part of the grammar.

The parentheses that you put in return(0) serve only for grouping
purpose. They are semantically equivalent to the parentheses in "i =
(0);"; they are just as legal, and just as pointless.

If your brain doesn't immediately understand why what I said above is
true, I recommend retraining it.

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Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-15 15:36 -0400
  Re: Whaddaya think? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 22:33 +0100
  Re: Whaddaya think? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-06-15 23:03 +0100
    Re: Whaddaya think? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-06-16 00:22 +0100
      Re: Whaddaya think? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-06-16 10:30 +0100
    Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-16 11:52 -0400
      Re: Whaddaya think? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-06-17 00:17 +0100
        Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-17 08:49 -0400
  Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 15:22 -0700
    Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-16 12:20 -0400
      Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 13:54 -0700
      Re: Whaddaya think? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-06-16 22:41 -0400
        Re: Whaddaya think? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-06-16 22:45 -0700
        Re: Whaddaya think? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-06-17 07:39 +0000
          Re: Whaddaya think? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 01:22 -0700
          Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-17 09:50 -0400
            Re: Whaddaya think? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-06-17 16:23 +0100
              Re: Whaddaya think? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-06-17 18:46 +0200
              Re: Whaddaya think? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-06-22 22:14 +0000
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 17:10 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2024-06-23 11:20 +0300
          Re: Whaddaya think? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-06-18 00:19 -0700
            Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-18 03:10 -0700
              Re: Whaddaya think? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-06-18 17:24 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-18 17:55 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-06-19 01:58 +0000
        Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-17 08:50 -0400
          Re: Whaddaya think? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-06-17 15:41 +0100
            Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-18 08:12 +0200
              Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-18 03:07 -0700
      Re: Whaddaya think? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-06-17 00:30 -0400
  Re: Whaddaya think? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-16 01:56 +0300
    Re: Whaddaya think? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-16 03:26 +0000
      Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 05:41 +0200
        Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 21:17 -0700
          Re: Whaddaya think? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-16 04:41 +0000
          Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 06:44 +0200
            Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-16 11:09 -0400
              Re: Whaddaya think? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-06-16 17:56 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-06-16 18:14 +0100
                Re: Whaddaya think? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-06-17 14:44 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-17 09:52 -0400
        Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 06:51 +0200
          Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 22:21 -0700
            Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 07:41 +0200
              Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 22:49 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 11:29 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 16:04 +0100
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:13 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 13:32 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-17 07:41 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 23:20 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-17 09:16 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-06-17 09:38 -0400
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 16:17 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-18 07:09 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-06-18 03:25 -0400
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-18 02:57 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 16:15 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-18 08:02 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-18 19:07 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-06-19 09:50 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-19 13:13 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-06-17 02:21 -0400
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-17 09:22 +0200
              Re: Whaddaya think? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-16 11:11 +0300
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 11:07 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-16 12:38 +0300
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 12:03 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-16 14:31 +0300
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:37 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-17 00:45 +0300
              Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:06 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-06-16 22:40 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-17 07:52 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-17 09:45 -0400
                Re: Whaddaya think? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 13:16 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-17 17:07 -0400
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 15:48 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-06-17 22:48 +0000
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 15:44 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-06-18 15:00 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-18 06:57 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-06-18 00:25 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-06-17 02:38 -0400
                Re: Whaddaya think? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-06-18 17:01 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-17 07:48 +0200
                Re: Whaddaya think? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 23:29 -0700
                Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-17 09:35 +0200
        Re: Whaddaya think? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 08:19 +0100
        Re: Whaddaya think? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-16 10:44 +0300
          Re: Whaddaya think? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-06-16 11:13 +0200
    Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-16 11:03 -0400
  Re: Whaddaya think? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-06-16 15:52 +0000
    Re: Whaddaya think? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 17:17 +0100
    Re: Whaddaya think? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-06-18 08:06 +0000
    Re: Whaddaya think? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-06-25 17:37 +0000
      Re: Whaddaya think? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-06-25 14:09 -0400
        Re: Whaddaya think? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-06-25 18:11 +0000

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