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Re: Google Groups shutting down for good

From	FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject	Re: Google Groups shutting down for good
Date	2023-12-18 04:31 -0500
Organization	Peripheral Visions
Message-ID	<ulp3h5$3eftb$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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Jim Pennino formulated on Sunday :
> In sci.physics Micki Marushko Barabashev <ukms@mmsiokio.sk> wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>>> Volney wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/17/2023 12:08 PM, JanPB wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:39:34â?¯PM UTC-8, The Starmaker
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> by now most of yous heard Google Groups will shut down for good...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, it was fun while it lasted (I started posting to Usenet in
>>>>> 1985). -- Jan
>>>> 
>>>> Why do you say that? There are many newsreaders and NNTP servers in
>>>> existence for you to use. Since you were posting in 1985, long before
>>>> there was any such a thing as Google Groups (or even Google), you know
>>>> this.
>>> 
>>> Jan is loosing it...
>> 
>> indeed. With the year too. He meant 1995. In 1985 were mostly Bulletin 
>> Board Systems, aka BBS. But the usenet went kaput since former dejanews, 
>> where posting needs no account, phone number etc.
>
> USENET was established in 1980.

From Wikipedia:

"Brian Kantor of the University of California, San Diego, and Phil 
Lapsley of the University of California, Berkeley, wrote RFC 977, the 
specification for the Network News Transfer Protocol, in March 1986. 
Other contributors included Stan O. Barber from the Baylor College of 
Medicine and Erik Fair of Apple Computer."

So, you are saying that the Usenet predates the protocol it uses?
>
> However the unwashed masses had limited access until the late 80's when
> NNTP access became available and the masses were starting to get
> Internet access.
>
> The demise of dejanews had little to no effect on USENET.

But the rise of Google Groups and the, IMO, mishandling of the system 
by them made a real mess.

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Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-14 20:39 -0800
  Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Dlzc <turkeyheadedmutha@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 04:12 -0800
    Re: Google Groups shutting down for good rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 06:24 -0800
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    Re: Google Groups shutting down for good RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-12-19 17:07 -0800
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  Re: Google Groups shutting down for good "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 15:15 -0800
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        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-16 07:32 -0700
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          Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-18 21:23 -0600
            Re: Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-18 21:55 -0800
            Re: Google Groups shutting down for good nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-12-19 23:18 +0100
              Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-20 02:25 -0500
          Re: Google Groups shutting down for good RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-12-19 16:22 -0800
    Re: Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-15 16:15 -0800
      Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 18:54 -0600
  Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 18:48 -0600
  Re: Google Groups shutting down for good JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 09:08 -0800
    Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-17 13:11 -0500
      Re: Google Groups shutting down for good pnalsing@gmail.com (palsing) - 2023-12-17 18:53 +0000
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 12:39 -0800
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 14:04 -0800
          Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 19:12 -0800
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-21 11:42 -0800
      Re: Google Groups shutting down for good whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-17 12:59 -0600
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 11:44 -0800
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 12:41 -0800
      Re: Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 12:28 -0800
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Micki Marushko Barabashev <ukms@mmsiokio.sk> - 2023-12-17 21:23 +0000
          Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-17 14:26 -0800
            Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Elvin Katzenelenbaum Tzelobenok <nmmt@envzbbv.ez> - 2023-12-17 23:01 +0000
              Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-17 16:20 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Lonnie Lohno <llno@loonehln.ni> - 2023-12-18 17:07 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 09:27 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Eddie Pitel Belotelov <eeti@ddiiield.ii> - 2023-12-18 19:47 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 12:18 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-19 00:21 -0500
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Otto Shalitkin Tsarakov <tota@snaonsoi.ht> - 2023-12-20 00:02 +0000
            Re: Google Groups shutting down for good FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-12-18 04:31 -0500
              Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 08:24 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-12-18 11:48 -0500
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 09:17 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good George Babit Badoff <ddfn@gnero/af.gf> - 2023-12-18 20:02 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 12:23 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Chirag Belyavsky Katsepov <heyy@igkhhycs.vv> - 2023-12-18 20:53 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 13:11 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-18 18:09 -0600
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-18 13:15 -0500
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Mickel Chuho <ehhh@ulhccmck.lo> - 2023-12-18 21:15 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good JohnN <flakey715@aol.com> - 2023-12-18 16:15 -0500
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-12-18 15:22 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-19 00:02 -0500
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Marcelo Sarsberr <eera@omearroo.rb> - 2023-12-22 01:23 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-21 19:41 -0600
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-22 15:46 -0600
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Jerrod O'Connel <noel@oo'clrjj.on> - 2023-12-23 00:06 +0000
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-12-22 21:56 -0600
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2023-12-23 14:49 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-23 15:43 -0800
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-12-19 00:31 -0600
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-19 00:10 -0800
              Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-18 21:23 -0600
                Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-18 20:42 -0800
            Re: Google Groups shutting down for good JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-12-18 10:47 -0800
              Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-18 18:17 -0800
          Re: Google Groups shutting down for good JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-12-18 10:45 -0800
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 16:35 -0600
        Re: Google Groups shutting down for good JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-12-18 10:43 -0800
          Re: Google Groups shutting down for good nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-12-18 21:16 +0100
      Re: Google Groups shutting down for good "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 12:38 -0800
    Re: Google Groups shutting down for good The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 12:27 -0800
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