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Re: How many planets are there?

From Sergio <invaled@invalid.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: How many planets are there?
Date 2021-07-29 17:46 -0500
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On 7/29/2021 2:28 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:08:07 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/29/2021 12:51 PM, Paul Alsing wrote: 
>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 6:40:00 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote: 
>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:12 AM, The Starmaker wrote: 
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: 
>>
>>>>> In Order for Frank Drake to use a sample for his equation, it would have to have a pattern, a sequence...meaning two or more planets. 
>>>> Not two or more, but an average of 2. Sometimes 3, sometimes 0, sometimes 1 etc... 
>>>
>>> Actually, zero is never an option for any term because that would always result in an answer of N = 0
>> No, nₑ is an average. Different stellar systems have more or fewer 
>> earthlike planets, and some stellar systems will have 0 earthlike 
>> planets. nₑ doesn't have to be an integer, either. If half the stellar 
>> systems have 1 earthlike planet and the other half have none, and none 
>> have more, then nₑ = 0.5. It's only when the average is 0 (meaning no 
>> earthlike planets at all, anywhere), that makes N = 0 and the equation 
>> trivial.
> 
> Agreed.
> 

another fact *left out of Drakes* is how far a radio signal can travel
called free space path loss, it is only about the size of our solar system.

you will want to use a frequency between 1 and 2 Ghz, lowest attenuation
frequincy for RF

say your reciever can detect signals at -140 Dbw, and has a dish gain of
50 db and the Alien transmitter can transmit at 100kW (50dBW)

so you have 140 + 50 + 50 = 240 db you can loose in losses.

transmitter gain in dB of 100 (omni directional)
reciever gain in dB of 1000 (high gain antenna)

https://www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/free-space-path-loss-calculator


try it, we cannot pickup signals outside of our solar system.

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