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Re: How many planets are there?

Message-ID <60FB2474.6338@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2021-07-23 13:20 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: How many planets are there?
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Paul Alsing wrote:
> 
> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 8:43:15 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Paul Alsing wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 11:15:05 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Now I'm going to point out exactly where the fraud exist in Drake's Equation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > n =
> > > > >
> > > > > Drake put in a value for n =
> > > > >
> > > > > and that value he used is fraud.
> > > > >
> > > > > Look up what number he put for n =
> > > > >
> > > > > and you will see the fraud.
> > >
> > > Now you are moving the goalposts.
> > I did not move the goalpost. I simply responded to what you wrote:
> >
> > "The only reason I responded to this post was that you called the Drake equation fraudulent, and that is just not true." --Paul Alsing
> > >
> > > "The problem, of course, is that none of the terms can be known, and most cannot even be estimated.
> > > The only way to work the equation is to fill in with guesses. And guesses-just so we’re clear-are merely expressions of prejudice."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And this is true. To work the Drake Equation you need to make a guess for each term in the equation, and a guess is not a fraud. A guess is what is *required* in order to generate an answer!
> 
> > You simply don't understand Drake and his Equation.
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrote: "Now I'm going to point out *exactly* where the fraud exist in Drake's Equation."
> > n =
> >
> > Drake put in a value for n =
> >
> > and that value he used is fraud.
> >
> > Look up what number he put for n =
> >
> > and you will see the fraud.
> > The value Drake put in was not a "guess" , it was intentional fraudulent.
> >
> >
> >
> > But you don't know what that value is because you didn't bother to 'look it up'. You're just making uninformed, off-the-cuff statements.
> >
> >
> > It's obvious to everyone here...
> >
> >
> > What is the value that Drake used in n = ????
> 
> All you are doing here is confirming that you don't know much about math.
> 
> The Drake equation is:
> 
> N = (R*)(fp)(ne)(fl)(fi)(fc)(L)
> 
> where:
> 
> N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible (i.e. which are on our current past light cone);
> and
> 
> R∗ = the average rate of star formation in our galaxy
> fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets
> ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
> fl = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point
> fi = the fraction of planets with life that actually go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations)
> fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
> L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space
> 
> N is not a guessed number, N is the answer! DRake did not use any number for N!


The number Drake gave for fp =  was 0.5

(you're not suppose to know that i guess)


What number did Drake give for n = ?


(you're not suppose to know that i guess)

(everyone is trying to hide Drake's original inputs cause they know it is a fraud.)


( I  forgot to warn you it might be very difficult for you to find it, you have to get pass the coverups of Drake's fraud)


and you posted the new user edited versions of Drake's original version.


(you're not suppose to see his original version because...it is a fraud.)


(I forgot to warn you it might be very difficult for you to find Drake's original equation and his inputs  because others are trying to erase it from the internet)

cancel culture been around a long time...



Okay, I'll give you a hint of What number did Drake give for n = ?


multible choice


a) 0

b) 1

c) 2

d) 3

Now, in order for you to understand the number Drake gave, you need to understand
what n = means originally in Drake's real Equations...


n =  in Drake's original equation, it stands for the number of planets in a star system able to support Life.



So, which number did Drake picked? 0, 1, 2, or 3 ?









-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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