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Re: and no religion too

From slider <slider@anashram.com>
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Subject Re: and no religion too
Date 2018-08-22 20:43 +0100
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:23:15 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan  
<david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 3:45:52 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
>> > I don't want gangsters in power.
>>
>> ### - probably nowhere left on the planet you can get away from that
>> anymore...
>>
>> gangsters are 'running' the show!
>>
>> it's THEIR show! :)
>>
>> as for the Don of 'Dons' (heh) t'aint nada you can do about it pal,  
>> might
>> as well try to intimidate your local Cos mob hah! plus was 'put' in  
>> there
>> by the 1+19% to make things 'right' again (no pun intended...) what
>> joe-public thinks being irrelevant to their aims/goals of getting  
>> 'their'
>> world (of money!) back in order again! they don't give 2-fucks about
>> anything else! - meanwhile, they're back to demonising the left so the
>> current don will have a better chance of getting a second term...
>>
>> same as it ever was really, only worse :)
>
> It's hard to believe you really believe all that. To me, it seems
> like a lot of rationalizations designed to prove to yourself that
> everything is futile.

### - am merely trying to prove to you that everything you've done &  
imagine you 'could' have done so far, is/was utterly futile, and is/was  
ultimately just a lot of hissing & spitting on your part to absolutely no  
real-world effect whatsoever, other than that of bombarding us all here  
with complaints... at best you've merely added to (or tried to increase)  
the emotional hysteria surrounding the whole thing but that's all, it's  
just all in your head that you're even involved at all... and 'coz there  
isn't a goddamn thing you can 'actually' do to change anything as you're  
merely an emotional-engaged bystander that's actually playing-into the  
whole frenzy thing 'they've' deliberately created!





> The 8 Obama years were not very much like
> what's happening now. The same forces existed, but they weren't
> nearly as much in control. That proves things can swing the other way,
> and since they can, then they could be swung even further that way.
> And probably will be, eventually.

### - obama had everything when he first took office (both houses) and  
then they slowly tied his hands till there was almost nothing he could do  
of any moment, that's the way it works! you've had left-wing governments  
before and the world is 'still' a goddamn mess! the left don't control  
anything! at best they can have 'maybe' as much as a 5% influence, and  
that's when their in power!




> Yes, there has lately been a large worldwide swing back to the right.
> But the advantage of that is that it should become apparent how
> destructive it is. Then there will be another reactionary swing back
> to the left. And yeah, government needs to be a bit left of center,
> because it is a collective endeavor. We actually agree on that. :)

### - a 'temporary' swing back to the left only heh, 'coz the right-wing  
'own' everything including the media! so it's never long before they're  
back in and have everyone blaming all the then problems on the left!

if people from the 80% were more 'politically' educated they would never  
in a million years vote other than left every time, and i mean every time  
without fail! and this because they'd realise the importance of voting the  
right down at every opportunity who are, after all, only a minority group!  
the right-wing should never ever win! 'they' do all, however, realise the  
total importance of them all voting every time ('because' they're a  
minority group!) and then collectively work at tipping & eroding the  
balance by hook & by crook (with the emphasis on crook!) down from an  
80/20 split to more 50/50 where they then at least 'get' a chance to win!  
plus just look at the trouble they go to to achieve exactly that??

if you (or anyone) really wants to DO something about the situation  
'for-real', then you'd have to educate the 80% majority accordingly (in  
france, for example, their populace since the french revolution, has  
always been traditionally more politically educated than most, thus the  
far right-wing hardly ever get in there! people taking to the streets if  
it even 'looks' that way lol, even so they still don't exactly have  
perfect lives nor a perfect society, and are actually rather racist and  
thus right-wing lol!)

so ya see, there's nada you can 'really' do jeremy! you can make a lot of  
noise and a fuss but it doesn't 'actually' DO anything, other than just  
giving your peers a headache heh...

by rights (again no pun intended) the right should NEVER ever get into  
government! EVER!

so they BUY their way in! every time! they're the gangsters with 'all' the  
power remember?

as for the 'current' don; he's just applying the age-old, time-tested  
'divide & rule' method globally! and because while everyone's at each  
other's throats he's getting a window to do what he wants! (the brits  
conquered/expanded the known world by applying just that principle alone!)

face it, there's absolutely 'nothing' you (or anyone) can do short of  
shooting the fucker!

and then they'd just go-get another one anyway!?

thus futile!

the 'best' that can thus genuinely be done, being to 'realise' all that  
(and the futility of getting involved) and then find some way to live  
'beside' it all without letting it drive you nuts hehe...

whatever ways ya looks at it all: we 'still' live in an almost totally  
barbaric world of masters & brutalised slaves! the 'whole thing' no better  
than one huge concentration camp! (albert camus said that too: slave camps  
under the banner of freedom? spot-on!)

plus i don't mean to sound condescending, but don'tcha think i've maybe  
stood at the exact same place you're standing now? (years ago i mean...)  
and hated the fuckers! (laffing...) cursed them boodclaat! (jamaican  
slang...) even despaired of the world and the horrible state of it! even  
despised humanity for being such... cunts! :)

heh, it was just after an election here that put the right-wing straight  
back into power after 'years' of their crap making life harder for people!  
i was sooo sure they were gone THIS time?? but nooo... the fucking  
'idiots' had only gone and voted them all back in??? lol i just couldn't  
accept it!!! i'd stayed up all night watching the election results, and by  
6am in the morning it became clear we were all gonna get 'yet another'  
5-years of it, damn you! damn you all to hell! (laffing...) and i guess i  
was pretty upset! (defo an understatement heh...)

i gots in my car and stormed-off, fuming basically hah! it was just  
getting light and i headed up to an old piece of common land/open park and  
the cafe they have at the top there, cussin' and spittin' the whole way  
(lol...) only it was a bit early and the little cafe hadn't opened yet so  
i sat on a nearby bench as far away as possible from anyone else while  
keeping in eye-shot of the cafe; i definitely wasn't very pleased with  
humanity today! :)))

fuming i was, sitting there on my bench, when i finally heard the sound of  
shutters going up at around 7am, i'll go get me a tea and a sandwich, and  
god help them if they even so much as 'look' at me sideways! heads will  
roll! (so not exactly a happy camper that day huh lol...)

got up and wandered in there prolly looking like hell anyway (hah) maybe  
even just hoping to start something! today i was NOT humanity's friend!  
some young girl serving i was ready to bite her frickin' head-off mate,  
and i don't care who she was! fucking humanity! bunch of cunts! ALL of 'em!

and then in a soft spanish accent i gets: good morning.. sir (nobody calls  
me sir!?) what would you like this good morning? i was ready to savage  
someone (whatdoifuckin'-want??? under my breath...) but something in her  
soft tone halted me some, wrong-footed me, forced a terse/clipped reply  
outta me, she was only very young, maybe only 17 or 18, very attractive  
and softly spoken, only a kid! -tea and one of those (pointing at a cheese  
sandwich) and i definitely wasn't going to say 'please'! fact of the  
matter was, she didn't give me a chance, there wasn't even a single gap in  
her behaviour that could possibly justify me being mean to her? mad as i  
was i just couldn't let myself sully her or her mood in any way and she  
wasn't doing anything wrong! so i bit my lip! still nodded instead of  
saying thank you or anything (slider in a bad mood hehe) and headed back  
to my bench... only it was a different slider that arrived back there...  
and now there i am, sipping tea and munching on a fresh sandwich somewhat  
mollified by just her acceptable behaviour & youth alone... i realised  
then that i liked women, women are alright in their own way, they might be  
totally ignorant just like the rest of 'em but they're still nice? 'she'  
was nice! then considered that just over half the population of the world  
are women! and with that i'd just let-off more than half of humanity! -the  
last of my anger & despair drained away; i'd just forgiven/let-off more  
than half of the cunts! i didn't really hate humanity after all! at least  
not all of them, not the majority of them... i smiled prolly for the first  
time in hours haha, and ate my sandwich and drank my tea, suddenly calm  
now, everything was alright again! YES they really ARE a bunch of ignorant  
cunts! damned ignorant! but their women ain't so bad... and i've indeed  
met quite a few decent chaps in my time too... suddenly it was quite nice  
sitting there on that bench, on that hill in the early morning, surrounded  
by trees looking down over southern london at the early morning  
rush-hour... finished my sandwich and my tea feeling like a weight had  
just been lifted off of me... and went back home... bunch of cunts yes!  
heh... but i still liked 'em even if they ARE all fucked up 'and' fucking  
stupid to boot... they're all just a bit fucked up is all :)

and i haven't 'involved' myself in politics ever since!

the end. :)

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