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Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud

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On 27/04/2017 16:25, owl wrote:
> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>> On 26/04/2017 16:24, owl wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>> On 26/04/2017 13:14, owl wrote:
>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 25/04/2017 10:33, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24/04/2017 17:26, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/2017 10:56 AM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> To no surprise, Microshit will make its Orifice 2016 "cloud"
>>>>>>>>>> product mandatory for all users:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-is-pushing-office-2016-users-towards-office-365
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I have said many times before, software lasts forever but software
>>>>>>>>>> companies do not.  The old trick of repetitive "annual versions" is
>>>>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>>>>> to generate sufficient revenues.  The new commercial trend is now the
>>>>>>>>>> subscription model where the customer has no choice but to pay again
>>>>>>>>>> and again for the privilege of using the same junk lest he lose
>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, GNU/Linux and open source software will always remain
>>>>>>>>>> accessible and free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks like you'll be holding your nose and using that unholy mess called
>>>>>>>>> "LibreOffice".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who am I kidding?  You demand MS Office, just like any rational person.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At least with the Cloud version of Office you can use the apps on pretty
>>>>>>>> much any device, I think this is the way things are heading. Now correct
>>>>>>>> me if I'm wrong (And I did have a quick look), none of the Linux open
>>>>>>>> source office suites will work as a web application, thus tying users to
>>>>>>>> their PCs. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As usual, you are wrong. Get OpenOffice online. It does more than you 
>>>>>>> precious MS garbage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did find that site as part of my research, it doesn't work, the free
>>>>>> trial just hangs and the link to purchase it says "Thank you for your
>>>>>> interest in this product(s). Unfortunately, this item is currently not
>>>>>> available for purchase. Please check directly with ADV Ltd at:
>>>>>> support@invoicebyclick.com."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you using it? How is it superior? In fact please explain to me how
>>>>>> an unavailable product or service is superior to a hole in the ground....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, just admit it, you Googled and found the site and didn't
>>>>>> really check like I did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just displayed your stupidity and a typical Linux zealot response.
>>>>>> You are the Usenet Klown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I quite like sitting in a cafe or bar or on a train using my
>>>>>>>> iPad or iPhone to tweak a document. It's a nice joined up, seamless
>>>>>>>> method of working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Except that you are still wrong
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least my solution works, unlike your "superior" non functioning and
>>>>>> completely unavailable one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>> rollapp.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> iPhones not supported so not quite up there with the Microsoft Cloud
>>>> offering. Also only works with Chrome & Firefox so further limits imposed.
>>>
>>> Apparently it supports iPad and Safari.  I've tried Excel on my phone,
>>> and it's basically unusable on such a small device, so if iphone is not
>>> supported that's not much of a loss.  If you want to work on those kinds
>>> of applications on a mobile device, take a tablet with you.
>>>
>>
>> The thing is, currently I can use any device, any device I happen to
>> have with me at the time, any device I have access to at the time, in
>> short, not a subset of devices that the developers have decided to
>> support. The web is meant to be device independent.
> 
> Do you actually like the user experience with Excel on an phone?

No, but I like the fact that if that's all I have with me I can still
operate and I'm not limited by the developers of the app.

> 
> rollapp.com provides hundreds of applications, not just an office suite,
> and its only real limitations (for now) are that you have a device with
> a decent screen size, so I don't see a problem.
> 
> https://www.rollapp.com/apps
> Education 96 apps
> Development 98 apps
> Office 118 apps
> Games 81 apps
> Utilities 175 apps
> Graphics 77 apps
> 

Hmm, I'm not convinced that many of those are worth $6.99 / month plus
the extra storage costs.

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Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-25 09:56 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-25 11:33 +0200
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-25 12:48 -0400
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 11:55 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 11:57 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-26 12:14 +0000
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 14:58 +0100
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-26 15:24 +0000
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:13 -0700
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 11:12 +0100
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-27 06:48 -0500
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2017-04-27 05:17 -0700
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-27 15:25 +0000
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 17:01 +0100
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-27 16:26 +0000
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:14 -0700
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 17:07 +0100
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 10:08 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 12:42 -0400
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 10:57 -0700
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 14:31 -0400
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 11:39 -0700
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 09:21 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 11:08 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2017-04-25 03:26 -0700
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-25 08:29 -0400
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:23 -0700
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 09:27 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 12:08 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-26 08:34 -0400
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-26 11:26 -0500
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-26 12:40 -0400
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 12:29 -0700
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-26 14:42 -0500
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 14:21 -0700
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-04-26 22:33 +0000
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 15:39 -0700
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 10:00 +0100
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 09:58 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-25 13:04 +0000
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 -0700

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