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Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud
Date 2017-04-27 15:25 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <ahcuv03ahgy4.f@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> On 26/04/2017 16:24, owl wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 26/04/2017 13:14, owl wrote:
>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 25/04/2017 10:33, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24/04/2017 17:26, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/24/2017 10:56 AM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> To no surprise, Microshit will make its Orifice 2016 "cloud"
>>>>>>>>> product mandatory for all users:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-is-pushing-office-2016-users-towards-office-365
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I have said many times before, software lasts forever but software
>>>>>>>>> companies do not.  The old trick of repetitive "annual versions" is
>>>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>>>> to generate sufficient revenues.  The new commercial trend is now the
>>>>>>>>> subscription model where the customer has no choice but to pay again
>>>>>>>>> and again for the privilege of using the same junk lest he lose
>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, GNU/Linux and open source software will always remain
>>>>>>>>> accessible and free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like you'll be holding your nose and using that unholy mess called
>>>>>>>> "LibreOffice".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who am I kidding?  You demand MS Office, just like any rational person.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least with the Cloud version of Office you can use the apps on pretty
>>>>>>> much any device, I think this is the way things are heading. Now correct
>>>>>>> me if I'm wrong (And I did have a quick look), none of the Linux open
>>>>>>> source office suites will work as a web application, thus tying users to
>>>>>>> their PCs. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual, you are wrong. Get OpenOffice online. It does more than you 
>>>>>> precious MS garbage
>>>>>
>>>>> I did find that site as part of my research, it doesn't work, the free
>>>>> trial just hangs and the link to purchase it says "Thank you for your
>>>>> interest in this product(s). Unfortunately, this item is currently not
>>>>> available for purchase. Please check directly with ADV Ltd at:
>>>>> support@invoicebyclick.com."
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using it? How is it superior? In fact please explain to me how
>>>>> an unavailable product or service is superior to a hole in the ground....
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, just admit it, you Googled and found the site and didn't
>>>>> really check like I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> You just displayed your stupidity and a typical Linux zealot response.
>>>>> You are the Usenet Klown.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I quite like sitting in a cafe or bar or on a train using my
>>>>>>> iPad or iPhone to tweak a document. It's a nice joined up, seamless
>>>>>>> method of working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except that you are still wrong
>>>>>
>>>>> At least my solution works, unlike your "superior" non functioning and
>>>>> completely unavailable one.
>>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> rollapp.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> iPhones not supported so not quite up there with the Microsoft Cloud
>>> offering. Also only works with Chrome & Firefox so further limits imposed.
>> 
>> Apparently it supports iPad and Safari.  I've tried Excel on my phone,
>> and it's basically unusable on such a small device, so if iphone is not
>> supported that's not much of a loss.  If you want to work on those kinds
>> of applications on a mobile device, take a tablet with you.
>> 
> 
> The thing is, currently I can use any device, any device I happen to
> have with me at the time, any device I have access to at the time, in
> short, not a subset of devices that the developers have decided to
> support. The web is meant to be device independent.

Do you actually like the user experience with Excel on an phone?

rollapp.com provides hundreds of applications, not just an office suite,
and its only real limitations (for now) are that you have a device with
a decent screen size, so I don't see a problem.

https://www.rollapp.com/apps
Education 96 apps
Development 98 apps
Office 118 apps
Games 81 apps
Utilities 175 apps
Graphics 77 apps

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Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-25 09:56 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-25 11:33 +0200
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-25 12:48 -0400
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 11:55 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 11:57 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-26 12:14 +0000
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 14:58 +0100
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-26 15:24 +0000
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:13 -0700
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 11:12 +0100
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-27 06:48 -0500
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2017-04-27 05:17 -0700
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-27 15:25 +0000
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 17:01 +0100
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-27 16:26 +0000
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:14 -0700
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 17:07 +0100
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 10:08 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 12:42 -0400
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 10:57 -0700
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 14:31 -0400
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 11:39 -0700
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 09:21 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 11:08 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2017-04-25 03:26 -0700
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-25 08:29 -0400
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:23 -0700
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 09:27 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 12:08 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-26 08:34 -0400
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-26 11:26 -0500
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-26 12:40 -0400
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 12:29 -0700
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-26 14:42 -0500
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 14:21 -0700
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-04-26 22:33 +0000
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 15:39 -0700
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 10:00 +0100
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 09:58 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-25 13:04 +0000
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 -0700

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