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Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud
Date 2017-04-27 16:26 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <acz89v3.ahh@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> On 27/04/2017 16:25, owl wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 26/04/2017 16:24, owl wrote:
>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 26/04/2017 13:14, owl wrote:
>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 25/04/2017 10:33, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24/04/2017 17:26, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/2017 10:56 AM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> To no surprise, Microshit will make its Orifice 2016 "cloud"
>>>>>>>>>>> product mandatory for all users:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-is-pushing-office-2016-users-towards-office-365
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I have said many times before, software lasts forever but software
>>>>>>>>>>> companies do not.  The old trick of repetitive "annual versions" is
>>>>>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>>>>>> to generate sufficient revenues.  The new commercial trend is now the
>>>>>>>>>>> subscription model where the customer has no choice but to pay again
>>>>>>>>>>> and again for the privilege of using the same junk lest he lose
>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, GNU/Linux and open source software will always remain
>>>>>>>>>>> accessible and free.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like you'll be holding your nose and using that unholy mess called
>>>>>>>>>> "LibreOffice".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who am I kidding?  You demand MS Office, just like any rational person.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At least with the Cloud version of Office you can use the apps on pretty
>>>>>>>>> much any device, I think this is the way things are heading. Now correct
>>>>>>>>> me if I'm wrong (And I did have a quick look), none of the Linux open
>>>>>>>>> source office suites will work as a web application, thus tying users to
>>>>>>>>> their PCs. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As usual, you are wrong. Get OpenOffice online. It does more than you 
>>>>>>>> precious MS garbage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did find that site as part of my research, it doesn't work, the free
>>>>>>> trial just hangs and the link to purchase it says "Thank you for your
>>>>>>> interest in this product(s). Unfortunately, this item is currently not
>>>>>>> available for purchase. Please check directly with ADV Ltd at:
>>>>>>> support@invoicebyclick.com."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you using it? How is it superior? In fact please explain to me how
>>>>>>> an unavailable product or service is superior to a hole in the ground....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, just admit it, you Googled and found the site and didn't
>>>>>>> really check like I did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just displayed your stupidity and a typical Linux zealot response.
>>>>>>> You are the Usenet Klown.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I quite like sitting in a cafe or bar or on a train using my
>>>>>>>>> iPad or iPhone to tweak a document. It's a nice joined up, seamless
>>>>>>>>> method of working.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Except that you are still wrong
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least my solution works, unlike your "superior" non functioning and
>>>>>>> completely unavailable one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> rollapp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> iPhones not supported so not quite up there with the Microsoft Cloud
>>>>> offering. Also only works with Chrome & Firefox so further limits imposed.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently it supports iPad and Safari.  I've tried Excel on my phone,
>>>> and it's basically unusable on such a small device, so if iphone is not
>>>> supported that's not much of a loss.  If you want to work on those kinds
>>>> of applications on a mobile device, take a tablet with you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The thing is, currently I can use any device, any device I happen to
>>> have with me at the time, any device I have access to at the time, in
>>> short, not a subset of devices that the developers have decided to
>>> support. The web is meant to be device independent.
>> 
>> Do you actually like the user experience with Excel on an phone?
> 
> No, but I like the fact that if that's all I have with me I can still
> operate and I'm not limited by the developers of the app.
> 

I follow you, but I can't picture a spreadsheet emergency that couldn't
wait until I got to a capable device.  If the sky were truly falling
while I was on the road, I suppose I'd have to find a kiosk to enter
the nuclear codes.

>> 
>> rollapp.com provides hundreds of applications, not just an office suite,
>> and its only real limitations (for now) are that you have a device with
>> a decent screen size, so I don't see a problem.
>> 
>> https://www.rollapp.com/apps
>> Education 96 apps
>> Development 98 apps
>> Office 118 apps
>> Games 81 apps
>> Utilities 175 apps
>> Graphics 77 apps
>> 
> 
> Hmm, I'm not convinced that many of those are worth $6.99 / month plus
> the extra storage costs.

Looks like a good deal to me.  But that's an individual judgement call.

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Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-25 09:56 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-25 11:33 +0200
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-25 12:48 -0400
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 11:55 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 11:57 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-26 12:14 +0000
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 14:58 +0100
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-26 15:24 +0000
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:13 -0700
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 11:12 +0100
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-27 06:48 -0500
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2017-04-27 05:17 -0700
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-27 15:25 +0000
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 17:01 +0100
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-27 16:26 +0000
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:14 -0700
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 17:07 +0100
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-27 10:08 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 12:42 -0400
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 10:57 -0700
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 14:31 -0400
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 11:39 -0700
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 09:21 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 11:08 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2017-04-25 03:26 -0700
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-25 08:29 -0400
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:23 -0700
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 09:27 -0700
    Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-26 12:08 +0100
      Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-26 08:34 -0400
        Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-26 11:26 -0500
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-26 12:40 -0400
            Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 12:29 -0700
              Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-26 14:42 -0500
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 14:21 -0700
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-04-26 22:33 +0000
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 15:39 -0700
                Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 10:00 +0100
          Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2017-04-27 09:58 +0100
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-25 13:04 +0000
  Re: Software is Dead -- Long Live the Cloud Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:27 -0700

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