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Re: arm for the entire product line

Subject Re: arm for the entire product line
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
References <nvd8mg$kga$4@dont-email.me> <031120160844176130%YourName@YourISP.com>
From Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date 2016-11-02 19:31 -0400
Message-ID <oO2dnXYKbY_w6ofFnZ2dnUU7-I_NnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink)

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On 2016-11-02 15:44, Your Name wrote:
> In article <nvd8mg$kga$4@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
> <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> do not keep track of apple much other than when stuff stops working
>>
>> but since iphones use arm procs no doubt the entire line will move to
>> arm so apple can move to a single os
>>
>> is this well known plan or is it not public or not decided
>>
>> what is the time frame for this
>>
>> or will laptops and imacs go away and you will just plug you iphone
>> into a keyboard and display
>>
>> does anyone here do that already
>>
>> seems to be the obvious thing to do and where else can they go to
>> innovate
>>
>> the latest offerings seem to be a sign that they need to do something
>> to relieve the stagnation of innovation sooner and not later
>>
>> wonder why are shareholders not demanding more innovation
>
> Th rumoured switch to using Apple's own ARM chips in Mac computers is
> almost always said to be due to Intel dropping the ball with delays and
> lacklustre "improvements" to their chips, and so that Apple has more
> control over it's product schedules.

Deja Vu PowerPC.

I'd lean more to the fact that Apple have invested by buying three 
companies (or more) who are CPU design experts.  Controlling one's 
destiny with CPU design you own and not paying intel's margins is a much 
more useful thing than not waiting on intel.

The next "delay" fence that Apple would face would be the fabs.  It's 
all nice and dandy to spec to the tightest of the tight - the fabs being 
able to deliver is another thing altogether.  That would be the next 
line of frustration for Apple.  I doubt they want to be in the fab 
business at all - that is capital intensive and obsoletes quickly.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 10:44 -0700
  Re: arm for the entire product line android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-02 19:12 +0100
  Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-02 18:27 +0000
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:21 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 13:12 +1300
      Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 00:56 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-05 18:51 +1300
          Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:19 -0400
          Re: arm for the entire product line Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-11-06 20:22 +0000
            Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-07 14:13 +1300
        Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:19 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-11-05 15:31 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:41 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 08:44 +1300
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:18 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 13:07 +1300
      Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-03 01:54 +0000
        Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 16:51 -0400
          Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-04 18:11 +0000
            Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 10:55 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-05 15:09 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:23 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-05 15:28 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:37 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 13:52 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 23:20 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-06 03:37 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-06 17:53 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 03:05 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-07 17:12 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 05:32 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-07 11:22 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 16:37 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-11-08 16:16 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-09 09:10 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:08 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:04 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 18:58 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-07 17:28 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-08 12:49 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-07 19:06 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-08 02:45 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:15 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:29 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:09 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-08 10:44 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:11 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:12 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:28 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:17 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 11:52 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:02 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:04 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:25 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:58 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:17 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-06 12:08 +1300
        Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-12 10:26 -0800
    Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-02 19:31 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-02 19:43 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 00:25 -0400
      Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-03 08:45 -0700
        Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 11:52 -0400
      Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 17:07 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-03 08:40 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 11:52 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 17:48 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 13:51 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-05 10:51 -0700
    Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-05 14:16 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-23 16:24 -0800
      Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-23 20:17 -0800
        Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-24 10:45 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-24 03:39 -0800
            Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-24 15:58 +0000
              Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-24 08:44 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-24 17:53 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-24 15:40 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-24 23:55 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-25 22:38 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-26 11:01 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-26 03:34 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-26 14:31 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-26 06:40 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-27 11:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-27 04:58 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-27 21:52 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-28 09:31 +1100
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-28 09:18 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-30 11:44 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-30 04:29 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-11-30 14:11 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-30 15:53 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-12-02 01:32 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-01 18:33 -0800
                Re: arm for the entire product line onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2016-12-02 23:00 +0000
        Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-24 11:33 -0500

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