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Re: arm for the entire product line

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: arm for the entire product line
Date 2016-11-07 05:32 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2016-11-07, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-11-06, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>> > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...
>> >
>> > To clarify for those unable to read the fiery letters, that's the
>> > software development kits for tvOS, iOS ("iPhoneOS") and watchOS, the
>> > simulators for each of those platforms, plus the macOS SDK, and the
>> > macOS Kernel SDK.
>> >
>> > All of them have exactly the same content in their machine.h files.
>> 
>> Is this really big news to anyone at all?
>
> It shouldn't be, for anyone capable of reading source files or who
> understands the concept of cross-platform software development with a
> common core of code.
>
>> It's hard to believe there is anyone here who isn't aware of how this
>> stuff works. The concept of reusable code isn't exactly hard to grasp.
>
> Not everyone reading these groups is a programmer, but I'm baffled how
> someone like Alan Browne who claims to be a programmer could keep making
> such a silly argument about Sierra supporting ARM when it is easy to
> find evidence of it being a small addition to a cross-platform file.
> Others then take that misinformation and run with it.
>
> Hence my posting of technical details rather than just arguing, which as
> usual seems to be going around in circles.

Thanks. You've got more patience than me.

>> Then again, this is JF Mezei...
>
> JF Mezei was at least heading in the right direction, but from a
> position of speculation rather than looking for actual evidence.

It's seemingly done from a position of fear that Apple will move the Mac
platform to ARM-based designs in a way that hurts customers. Judging by
Apple's previous transitions, that fear and speculation seem both
premature and foolish. History shows if anyone can make a platform
transition go relatively smoothly, it's Apple.
 
-- 
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JR

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arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 10:44 -0700
  Re: arm for the entire product line android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-02 19:12 +0100
  Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-02 18:27 +0000
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:21 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 13:12 +1300
      Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 00:56 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-05 18:51 +1300
          Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:19 -0400
          Re: arm for the entire product line Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-11-06 20:22 +0000
            Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-07 14:13 +1300
        Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:19 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-11-05 15:31 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:41 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 08:44 +1300
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:18 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 13:07 +1300
      Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-03 01:54 +0000
        Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 16:51 -0400
          Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-04 18:11 +0000
            Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 10:55 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-05 15:09 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:23 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-05 15:28 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:37 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 13:52 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 23:20 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-06 03:37 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-06 17:53 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 03:05 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-07 17:12 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 05:32 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-07 11:22 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 16:37 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-11-08 16:16 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-09 09:10 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:08 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:04 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 18:58 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-07 17:28 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-08 12:49 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-07 19:06 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-08 02:45 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:15 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:29 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:09 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-08 10:44 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:11 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:12 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:28 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:17 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 11:52 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:02 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:04 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:25 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:58 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:17 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-06 12:08 +1300
        Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-12 10:26 -0800
    Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-02 19:31 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-02 19:43 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 00:25 -0400
      Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-03 08:45 -0700
        Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 11:52 -0400
      Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 17:07 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-03 08:40 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 11:52 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 17:48 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 13:51 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-05 10:51 -0700
    Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-05 14:16 -0400

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