Re: arm for the entire product line

Subject	Re: arm for the entire product line
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From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2016-11-05 13:52 -0400
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On 2016-11-05 11:37, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2016-11-05 11:28, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <_-ydnZRKVY7wZIDFnZ2dnUU7-TOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-11-05 11:09, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <e4ydnZoTH79_b4DFnZ2dnUU7-IHNnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-11-04 14:11, Lewis wrote:
>>>>>> In message <J6SdnWcNuff1PobFnZ2dnUU7-bGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2016-11-02 21:54, Lewis wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <nvdon4$odt$3@dont-email.me>
>>>>>>>>   Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 08:44:17 +1300
>>>>>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Th rumoured switch to using Apple's own ARM chips in Mac
>>>>>>>>>> computers is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> according to recent data sierra has arm support
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The new Mac Pros use an ARM chip for the touchbar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not what it's about, however.  The reference is to Sierra
>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> (macOS) showing support to be hosted on ARM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, its the kernel that supports ARM which makes sense since the
>>>>>> kernel  [ 1 ]
>           ================================
>>>>>> is used in all the Apple products.
>>>>
>>>>> Distinct things.  The reference to ARM Hercules is in the "Sierra
>>>>> kernel" - not in the iOS or WatchOS kernels.  They have a lot of
>>>>> commonality but are not identical.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, it is in the kernel.
>>
>>> And you are wrong.  That's why I posted that image so that you could see
>>> it referred to the Mac OS 10_12 kernel.  That is distinct from the
>>> kernel versions in iOS and Watch OS and AppleTV.
>>
>> I said it'sin the kernel. You said it;'s in the kernel. I said, "as I
>> said, it's in the kernel" and you say that I'm wrong.
>
> No.  I qualified it by stating the MacOS10_12 kernel.  It is not the
> same kernel used in ARM devices.  The source code may be 90 or even 99%
> common - but it is not the same kernel.
>
> See above [ 1 ] where you made your fundamental blunder.  Again: it is
> not the kernel for ARM.  It is the kernel for Sierra that was mentioned
> in the original post.  Nothing at all to do with ARM.

restated for clarity:

See above [ 1 ] where you made your fundamental blunder.  Again: it is
not the kernel for the Touch Bar ARM.  It is the kernel for Sierra that 
was mentioned in the original post.  Nothing at all to do with the Touch 
Bar ARM.


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arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 10:44 -0700
  Re: arm for the entire product line android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-02 19:12 +0100
  Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-02 18:27 +0000
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:21 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 13:12 +1300
      Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 00:56 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-05 18:51 +1300
          Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:19 -0400
          Re: arm for the entire product line Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-11-06 20:22 +0000
            Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-07 14:13 +1300
        Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:19 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-11-05 15:31 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:41 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 08:44 +1300
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:18 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-03 13:07 +1300
      Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-03 01:54 +0000
        Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 16:51 -0400
          Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-04 18:11 +0000
            Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 10:55 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-05 15:09 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:23 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-05 15:28 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:37 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 13:52 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 23:20 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-06 03:37 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-06 17:53 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 03:05 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-07 17:12 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 05:32 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-07 11:22 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 16:37 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-11-08 16:16 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-09 09:10 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:08 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:04 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 18:58 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-07 17:28 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-08 12:49 +1300
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-07 19:06 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-08 02:45 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:15 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:29 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:09 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-08 10:44 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-08 18:17 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-08 19:11 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:12 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:28 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-09 13:17 -0500
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 11:52 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:02 +0000
                Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:04 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:25 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-05 11:58 -0400
                Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-05 12:17 -0400
              Re: arm for the entire product line dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-11-06 12:08 +1300
        Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-12 10:26 -0800
    Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-02 19:31 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-02 19:43 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 00:25 -0400
      Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-03 08:45 -0700
        Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 11:52 -0400
      Re: arm for the entire product line Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 17:07 -0400
    Re: arm for the entire product line Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2016-11-03 08:40 -0700
      Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 11:52 -0400
        Re: arm for the entire product line Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 17:48 +0000
          Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-03 13:51 -0400
  Re: arm for the entire product line Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-05 10:51 -0700
    Re: arm for the entire product line nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-05 14:16 -0400

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