Re: OT: "Every American"...

From	FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: OT: "Every American"...
Date	2017-02-08 18:33 -0500
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On 2017-02-07 21:57:04 -0500, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:

> On 2/7/17, 7:39 PM, in article o7e0ck$n89$3@news.datemas.de, "Alan Baker"
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-02-07 6:03 PM, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <o7bbjs$ggp$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> her statements under oath are as factual as it gets.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And which of those statements factually supports your allegation that
>>>>>>>> she "paid off" an FBI director?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> why else would he not prosecute someone who broke the law?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He told you.  No reasonable prosecutor would have brought such a weak
>>>>>> case to court.
>>>>> 
>>>>> that is itself a lie.
>>>> 
>>>> Nope.  It was his exact testimony.  Do you even know what a lie is?
>>> 
>>> sure do, but apparently you do not.
>>> 
>>> although he did say those words, those words are *false*, which means
>>> it's a *lie*.
>> 
>> No. Because those words are inherently a JUDGEMENT.
>> 
>>> 
>>> *many* reasonable prosecutors were not only shocked at what he said,
>>> but they would have *jumped* at the opportunity to pursue it in court.
>> 
>> Quote one.
>> 
> He did not recommend indictment, but he did note:
> 
> Clinton:
> * Mishandled sensitive information
> * Knew she mishandled sensitive information
> * Showed "extreme carelessness" and was "sloppy"
> * Should have understood her actions were illegal
> * Responded to "suspicious emails"
> * Allowed "America's secrets [to be] vulnerable to hostile element[s]"
> * Showed "intent and consciousness of guilt"
> * Failed to follow internal policy
> * Failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act
> * Stored confidential materials on a system less secure than Gmail
> * Showed poor understanding of what how to keep information secure
> * Showed poor understanding of technology in general
> 
> And Clinton lied... here are just some:
> * Claiming under oath that she turned over all work related emails
> * Claiming under oath her lawyers read all of the emails to determine
>   which were work related
> * Claiming under oath that she never sent / received information marked
>   classified (though such markings that existed were done incorrectly)
> * Claiming she never sent / received classified information
> * Claiming the server she used was allowed under policy
> * Claiming she followed the Freedom of Information Act
> * Claiming that her server was secure
> * Claiming she used only one device (Comey is unclear about concurrent
>   usage but elsewhere Clinton speaks of using an iPhone and a Blackberry
>   in such a way)
> * Claiming all of her emails were saved or "captured"
> * Denying she deleted work related emails or had others do so
> * Denying she had emails deleted to prevent others from seeing them
> * Denying the FBI investigation was a criminal investigation
> * Denying she was the target of the FBI investigation
> 
> Additionally, Clinton:
> * Instructed people without clearance to read / handle classified
>   information
> * Instructed these same people to delete and hide classified information
> * Had a system which may have been hacked (we do not know)

Again... proof?  No.

Full os shit?  Yes.
-- 
"Now Trump and his minions are in the driver’s seat, attempting to pose 
as respectable participants in American politics, when their views come 
out of a playbook written in German."  -Ron Rosenbaum, Author of 
'Explaining Hitler'
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/

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Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-04 16:33 -0800
  Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-04 20:00 -0500
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-04 17:06 -0800
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-04 18:14 -0800
      Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-04 21:32 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-04 18:38 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-04 21:47 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-04 19:06 -0800
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:18 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:17 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:19 -0500
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      Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-05 16:43 +0100
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-05 09:51 -0800
        Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
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    Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:16 -0500
      Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-05 16:48 +0100
        Re: OT: "Every American"... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-05 13:12 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-05 13:29 -0800
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:29 -0500
              Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:40 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:30 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:30 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
              Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:31 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-08 23:32 +0100
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                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:31 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:32 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 05:21 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:09 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:11 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:21 -0500
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            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 03:25 -0500
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            Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-14 10:11 +1100
      Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-05 13:30 -0800
        Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:34 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:39 -0800
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-07 19:57 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:33 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:36 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:33 -0500
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              Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 23:00 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 20:02 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-09 10:05 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:34 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:32 -0500
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