Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FPP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: OT: "Every American"... Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:33:52 -0500 Organization: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. Lines: 87 Message-ID: References: <040220171111192098%nospam@nospam.invalid> <040220171237081072%nospam@nospam.invalid> <040220171706461759%nospam@nospam.invalid> <040220172000548677%nospam@nospam.invalid> <050220171514537945%nospam@nospam.invalid> <070220172103406656%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="aefecf5c0b034321bbc62e77cdbaad0d"; logging-data="19358"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/vIhR+3ydUMBagp43CpJRl" User-Agent: Unison/1.8.1 X-Face: $S(1)nD`-E<*bgHp{U3PkEIRK8)#hgSr&jBr)+JRi#,w{fEJJ`mVW_<'}`^z[h6Hm(ewhj< `|P!wJ9'\zqYmj0?a3F}DO_7#0'O#l+hE,+Z6@l9>c`(Jr.!Af\9XS_ln2I!V#Y^;UO's/#S2F:8:q2E?D`v&']"F90(j+3a$f3^42B(0El|MJ_l6"_GDD<\?ccjUYa 0SJ]PajZR:T said: > On 2/7/17, 7:39 PM, in article o7e0ck$n89$3@news.datemas.de, "Alan Baker" > wrote: > >> On 2017-02-07 6:03 PM, nospam wrote: >>> In article , FPP wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> her statements under oath are as factual as it gets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And which of those statements factually supports your allegation that >>>>>>>> she "paid off" an FBI director? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> why else would he not prosecute someone who broke the law? >>>>>> >>>>>> He told you. No reasonable prosecutor would have brought such a weak >>>>>> case to court. >>>>> >>>>> that is itself a lie. >>>> >>>> Nope. It was his exact testimony. Do you even know what a lie is? >>> >>> sure do, but apparently you do not. >>> >>> although he did say those words, those words are *false*, which means >>> it's a *lie*. >> >> No. Because those words are inherently a JUDGEMENT. >> >>> >>> *many* reasonable prosecutors were not only shocked at what he said, >>> but they would have *jumped* at the opportunity to pursue it in court. >> >> Quote one. >> > He did not recommend indictment, but he did note: > > Clinton: > * Mishandled sensitive information > * Knew she mishandled sensitive information > * Showed "extreme carelessness" and was "sloppy" > * Should have understood her actions were illegal > * Responded to "suspicious emails" > * Allowed "America's secrets [to be] vulnerable to hostile element[s]" > * Showed "intent and consciousness of guilt" > * Failed to follow internal policy > * Failed to comply with the Freedom of Information Act > * Stored confidential materials on a system less secure than Gmail > * Showed poor understanding of what how to keep information secure > * Showed poor understanding of technology in general > > And Clinton lied... here are just some: > * Claiming under oath that she turned over all work related emails > * Claiming under oath her lawyers read all of the emails to determine > which were work related > * Claiming under oath that she never sent / received information marked > classified (though such markings that existed were done incorrectly) > * Claiming she never sent / received classified information > * Claiming the server she used was allowed under policy > * Claiming she followed the Freedom of Information Act > * Claiming that her server was secure > * Claiming she used only one device (Comey is unclear about concurrent > usage but elsewhere Clinton speaks of using an iPhone and a Blackberry > in such a way) > * Claiming all of her emails were saved or "captured" > * Denying she deleted work related emails or had others do so > * Denying she had emails deleted to prevent others from seeing them > * Denying the FBI investigation was a criminal investigation > * Denying she was the target of the FBI investigation > > Additionally, Clinton: > * Instructed people without clearance to read / handle classified > information > * Instructed these same people to delete and hide classified information > * Had a system which may have been hacked (we do not know) Again... proof? No. Full os shit? Yes. -- "Now Trump and his minions are in the driver’s seat, attempting to pose as respectable participants in American politics, when their views come out of a playbook written in German." -Ron Rosenbaum, Author of 'Explaining Hitler' https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/