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Re: Spam

From Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com>
Newsgroups chi.internet
Subject Re: Spam
Date 2016-02-14 13:29 +0000
Organization Ripco Communications Inc.
Message-ID <n9pvfp$27b$1@remote5bge0.ripco.com> (permalink)
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Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:

> so who had rci.com back in the day?  It's the timeshare trading company now,
> but I can't imagine they were smart enough to get it that long ago.


If memory serves, I think it was a home builder, like Richardson Construction
Incorporated or something similar. They were down south, like Arkansas.

Why they had it in the early days, I don't know. Probably email since web
sites barely existed. Remember back then, domain names were first-come,
first-serve and in theory was yours forever, and basically free (no annual
renewal).

The way internic (or Merit, forgot who did this) checked to see if a domain
was abandoned was if the name servers shown on the record had zone records
for it or not. If you had a domain name pointing to your name servers and
they couldn't get an inquiry, it was deemed "lame delegation" and email was
sent to all the contacts on the registration record and given a 30 day
response period.

I still have a couple of those (I think) saved somewhere, they were worded
about as friendly as an IRS audit letter. 

There was some veiled threat after the explanation of the lame delegation
about if they didn't get any response back at all, there was a chance of
jepordizing future registrations either for the name servers or the person
registrating it.

Back then everyone had what they called a "nic handle", mine was BE8 and
that handle was used to register the domains. There used to be a way using a
whois server to dump that, but I don't remember how and I doubt they are in
use anymore, at least after domain name registration companies like godaddy
were created.

So basically if you ignored the letter they either would shut down future
domain name registrations for your name servers or the nic handle. Either
way, it was a pretty brutal threat. Not sure if they ever carried those out
though.

My point is, as long as the owner of rci.com had some kind of response back
from his listed name servers, we couldn't do anything about it. Even if the
response was 127.0.0.1 for everything, was still valid.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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