Re: Garbage In Garbage Out

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject	Re: Garbage In Garbage Out
Date	2026-03-04 03:54 +0000
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 22:20:44 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:

> On 3/3/2026 9:21 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 17:02:28 -0500, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>> 
>>> To have a $200 gap between the exact same model, changing only the
>>> SSD, makes Apple selling low-end junk on a high-end product.  The
>>> software and "experience" they sell makes people not care about the
>>> cost. However, it is reasonable to say Microsoft Windows systems are
>>> dependent on capacity of hardware.
>> 
>> You don't even want to get into the new M5s.
> 
> 
> Apple's CPUs are fine, it's just that IntelAMD is still relevant.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/03/m5-pro-and-m5-max-are-
surprisingly-big-departures-from-older-apple-silicon/

I meant the variety of processors that fall into the M5 bucket. Intel and 
AMD certainly are no slouches as far as not being able to tell the 
processors apart without the program but I didn't realize there were so 
many flavors in Apple silicon. However I don't know much about Apples 
anyway.

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