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From -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Garbage In Garbage Out
Date 2026-03-03 15:21 -0500
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On 3/3/26 00:21, Alan wrote:
> On 2026-03-02 19:36, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>> On 3/2/2026 9:19 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2026-03-02 14:29, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> The claim that the 512 GB drive is more advanced than the 256 GB one 
>>>> is merely reflecting its larger-sized nature. 
>>>
>>> Literally no one has made that claim.

Its a misinterpretation of what was said, probably due to Joel's 
technical incompetence.

>> It was asserted that the 512 GB has two banks of memory cells, making 
>> it not just twice the size of the basic model's SSD, but having an 
>> advanced interface.  However, since $200 is the price to replace the 
>> 256 GB drive, that makes the total amount out of the $800 price *more 
>> than* $200.  There exists no 512 GB SSD worth that much.
> 
> That's some fine bullshit math there...

Math aside, Joel is not understanding the the interface wasn't more 
"advanced", but simply that it was using two lanes instead of one, which 
increased the useful bandwidth:

There's been ample discussion of this over the years and it has become 
part of the independent testing of each product variation to see where 
it was/wasn't present.  For example:

"Apple released the new M3 MacBook Air this week, with faster 
performance, Wi-Fi 6E, and support for dual external displays. As it 
turns out, Apple also addressed another problem that plagued the 
previous-generation base model MacBook Air: SSD storage speeds.

The backstory here is that base model M2 MacBook Air with 256GB of 
storage offered slower SSD speeds than higher-tier configurations. This 
was due to the fact that the base model used one 256GB storage chip, 
rather than two 128GB storage chips."

<https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/09/macbook-air-m3-storage-speeds/>

TL;DR:  a change from 256 to 512 isn't merely twice as big, but because 
of increasing the employment of the same "interface technology" from one 
to two, it is (figuratively) twice as fast.

Gaining higher bandwidth performance has a tangible value to customers 
which is obviously more than merely being twice as much storage size. 
This factor is what is totally absent from Joel's attempted math.


-hh

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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-04 10:13 -0800
                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 13:39 -0500
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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-03 21:17 -0800
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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-04 08:31 -0800
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  Re: Garbage In Garbage Out chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-23 15:29 -0600
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