Re: Garbage In Garbage Out

Subject	Re: Garbage In Garbage Out
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On 3/3/2026 3:21 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 3/3/26 00:21, Alan wrote:
>> On 2026-03-02 19:36, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2026 9:19 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2026-03-02 14:29, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>> The claim that the 512 GB drive is more advanced than the 256 GB 
>>>>> one is merely reflecting its larger-sized nature. 
>>>>
>>>> Literally no one has made that claim.
> 
> Its a misinterpretation of what was said, probably due to Joel's 
> technical incompetence.


You confirm it's accurate below.


>>> It was asserted that the 512 GB has two banks of memory cells, making 
>>> it not just twice the size of the basic model's SSD, but having an 
>>> advanced interface.  However, since $200 is the price to replace the 
>>> 256 GB drive, that makes the total amount out of the $800 price *more 
>>> than* $200.  There exists no 512 GB SSD worth that much.
>>
>> That's some fine bullshit math there...
> 
> Math aside, Joel is not understanding the the interface wasn't more 
> "advanced", but simply that it was using two lanes instead of one, which 
> increased the useful bandwidth:


Which is more advanced.


> There's been ample discussion of this over the years and it has become 
> part of the independent testing of each product variation to see where 
> it was/wasn't present.  For example:
> 
> "Apple released the new M3 MacBook Air this week, with faster 
> performance, Wi-Fi 6E, and support for dual external displays. As it 
> turns out, Apple also addressed another problem that plagued the 
> previous-generation base model MacBook Air: SSD storage speeds.
> 
> The backstory here is that base model M2 MacBook Air with 256GB of 
> storage offered slower SSD speeds than higher-tier configurations. This 
> was due to the fact that the base model used one 256GB storage chip, 
> rather than two 128GB storage chips."
> 
> <https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/09/macbook-air-m3-storage-speeds/>
> 
> TL;DR:  a change from 256 to 512 isn't merely twice as big, but because 
> of increasing the employment of the same "interface technology" from one 
> to two, it is (figuratively) twice as fast.
> 
> Gaining higher bandwidth performance has a tangible value to customers 
> which is obviously more than merely being twice as much storage size. 
> This factor is what is totally absent from Joel's attempted math.


To have a $200 gap between the exact same model, changing only the SSD, 
makes Apple selling low-end junk on a high-end product.  The software 
and "experience" they sell makes people not care about the cost. 
However, it is reasonable to say Microsoft Windows systems are dependent 
on capacity of hardware.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-04 15:56 -0800
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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-03 21:15 -0800
                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-03-04 06:35 -0600
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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-04 10:13 -0800
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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-03 21:17 -0800
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                Re: Garbage In Garbage Out Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-04 08:31 -0800
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  Re: Garbage In Garbage Out chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-23 15:29 -0600
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