Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode

From	bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.vms
Subject	Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode
Date	2025-10-26 08:35 -0400
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On 10/26/2025 6:42 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2025-10-25 03:35, bill wrote:
>> On 10/24/2025 1:34 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 10/24/2025 1:13 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2025-10-24, Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
>>>>> Carry on, regardless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Careful with those Dongles, Eugene...
>>>>>
>>>>> How Charon-AXP Saved a Nuclear Power Plant from Shutdown
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.stromasys.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/ 
>>>>> Tai_Power_vax_case_study_20200622_A4.pdf
>>>>
>>>> The word "VMS" is not mentioned once in that document.
>>>>
>>>> Given the obvious real-time monitoring requirements, how do we know 
>>>> this
>>>> is not some specialised RTOS ? It could also be some other general 
>>>> purpose OS.
>>>
>>> We don't know for sure.
>>>
>>> But what OS are supported on Alpha today besides VMS?
>>>
>>> Tru64 went out of support in 2012.
>>>
>>> And it seems like a case where support does matter.
>>>
>>
>> The last mention of the PDP-11 in this kind of work was looking
>> for people with MACRO-11 experience.  It would not surprise me
>> to find out that no commercial OS is involved (possible no OS at
>> all, just running an application on bare metal),  A VAX in the
>> same environment could do the same.
> 
> You need some PDP-11 OS running in order to use Macro-11. And unless I 
> remember wrong, at least Ontario Hydroelectric was/is running RSX.
> 

To do the development maybe.  But one can create programs in Macro-11
that run all by themselves on bare iron.  Fig Forth?

bill

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Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> - 2025-10-24 23:31 +1100
  Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-24 08:49 -0400
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2025-10-24 10:45 -0400
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-24 17:16 +0000
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-24 17:30 +0000
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-24 13:42 -0400
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2025-10-24 21:01 +0100
          Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-28 13:16 +0000
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-10-26 15:56 +0000
          Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-28 13:09 +0000
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2025-10-26 20:45 -0400
  Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-24 16:58 +0300
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-24 09:07 -0400
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:02 +0000
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-26 17:37 +0200
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:59 +0000
  Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-24 17:13 +0000
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-24 13:34 -0400
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2025-10-24 18:46 +0100
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-24 13:51 -0400
          Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:05 +0000
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-24 18:18 +0000
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-10-26 11:40 +0100
          Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-10-26 15:36 +0100
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2025-10-24 21:35 -0400
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-10-26 11:42 +0100
          Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 08:35 -0400
            Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-26 10:55 -0400
              Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2025-10-26 21:56 -0400
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-26 22:09 -0400
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-27 10:16 +0000
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-10-27 15:55 -0400
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-28 12:58 +0000
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-28 13:54 +0000
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2025-10-28 12:15 -0400
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-10-29 10:04 +0100
                Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2025-10-29 13:13 +0000
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-26 17:44 -0400
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-27 10:17 +0000
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-24 18:10 +0000
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2025-10-24 21:38 -0400
      Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2025-10-26 21:57 -0400
        Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-27 10:22 +0000
          Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-10-27 11:23 +0000
            Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-27 14:05 +0000
              Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-10-27 18:06 -0400
            Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2025-10-27 19:37 -0400
  Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:53 +0000
  Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode Olorin <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 09:14 +0000
    Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-10-30 10:52 +0000

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