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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.vms |
| Subject | Re: Semper VMS - Nuclear Mode |
| Date | 2025-10-27 18:06 -0400 |
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cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
[ snip snip snip ]
> It could also be that there are regulatory issues requiring certification of
> a new platform, whereas virtualizing it is ok; possibly Stromasys had already
> checked that box.
Back in the 1990s (so probably cool to talk about), Lockheed-Martin Data Services
was responsible (under government contract) for keeping track of all the plutonium
that had ever been produced. They did this on a group of 14 DECsystem-10s
(KL-10 based), 12 redundant and 2 hot spares.
They approached my then PoE, where one of the hats I wore was pre- and post-sales
customer support, informally before issuing an RPQ. We only supported TOPS-20 on
our expanded clone platform, but for that large a sale we were willing to do the
port of Tops-10.
The reason they approached us was that we produced real, honest to $DEITY, hardware
rather than an emulator (which DEC was offering at the time, running on an Alpha
under VMS). (If they chose the emulator, or ported their database system to a
different architecture, an audit would be triggered of all the plutonium storage
facilities overseen by DoE/DoD, which no one wanted to have happen for reasons.)
Because our hardware qualified as a drop-in replacement, no audit trigger arose.
We did the port of Tops-10 in short order, based on a previous request that had
gone away in favor of TOPS-20 before completion, and I contacted the gent with
whom I had been in contact about getting that RPQ generated, only to be told that
their entire program had been defunded in the new budget being passed at that
moment in DC.
Sic transit gloria mundi. (Gloria threw up in the bus on Monday.)
I suspect that the VMS system under discussion is this thread is in similar straits.
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
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