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Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns
Date	2025-08-24 18:51 +0000
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:31:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 24/08/2025 04:36, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 20:06:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2025 19:38, rbowman wrote:
>>>> Robert Taylor and Cabrini-Green are the notorious examples but most
>>>> of the '60s era high rises have been demolished. Most of them were
>>>> quite nice before the tenants moved it.
>>>
>>> It has been noted that high rise flats that sell for millions are well
>>> looked after. High rise flats that are given away free are trashed
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>> You can take the plebs out of the slum but you cant take the slum out
>>> of the plebs
>> 
>> Going back to the Roman social classes I would argue what lives in the
>> projects would correspond to the slaves rather than the plebes but we
>> can't have slaves anymore. Marx' lumpenproletariat is a misnomer since
>> the proletariat works for a living and has economic value rather than
>> being a drain on the society..
> 
> Not gonna argue that one. Except the slaves did useful work

True. I doubt people in traditional civilizations that were adverse to 
work lasted very long. Even the Soviets caught on:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
He_who_does_not_work,_neither_shall_he_eat#Soviet_Union

It takes the modern Western welfare state to create a class of useless 
eaters.

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  Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns JJenssen <joemajen@arcor.de> - 2025-08-20 12:09 +0200
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    Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 12:23 +0100
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        Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:14 +0100
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                Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 11:31 +0100
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