Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Umpteen BILLIONS, Maybe a TRILLION, invested in "AI' - but Almost NO Returns Date: 24 Aug 2025 18:51:28 GMT Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <1086of0$rgpt$4@dont-email.me> <4f6dnWnSHNY07TX1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <108ae2u$1n7i9$6@dont-email.me> <108c398$234t5$4@dont-email.me> <108d3gd$2bja9$3@dont-email.me> <108epmd$2n9v5$19@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net FaPZ4NAH33TuKQl9SEX5uQcwkmEyNCSpeZ62AUZX9loD6cU3Ln Cancel-Lock: sha1:OHhuS/xp7i/2Bgv803ZiIZSJ10s= sha256:kJae0HyHPh7f4ew294FzTFlIKRTJgnfmE+Czgnxz+wI= User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:72166 On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 11:31:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 24/08/2025 04:36, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 20:06:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 23/08/2025 19:38, rbowman wrote: >>>> Robert Taylor and Cabrini-Green are the notorious examples but most >>>> of the '60s era high rises have been demolished. Most of them were >>>> quite nice before the tenants moved it. >>> >>> It has been noted that high rise flats that sell for millions are well >>> looked after. High rise flats that are given away free are trashed >>> immediately. >>> >>> You can take the plebs out of the slum but you cant take the slum out >>> of the plebs >> >> Going back to the Roman social classes I would argue what lives in the >> projects would correspond to the slaves rather than the plebes but we >> can't have slaves anymore. Marx' lumpenproletariat is a misnomer since >> the proletariat works for a living and has economic value rather than >> being a drain on the society.. > > Not gonna argue that one. Except the slaves did useful work True. I doubt people in traditional civilizations that were adverse to work lasted very long. Even the Soviets caught on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ He_who_does_not_work,_neither_shall_he_eat#Soviet_Union It takes the modern Western welfare state to create a class of useless eaters.