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Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)
Date 2025-07-05 09:44 +0200
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Am Freitag000004, 04.07.2025 um 23:51 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 6:22:13 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Donnerstag000003, 03.07.2025 um 01:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
>>>>>> Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>>>> Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One question:
>>>>>>>>> What created the elements you and I and everything around us
>>>>>>>>> consist of?
>>>>>>>>> The Devine Arindam?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
>>>>> nuclei.
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>> So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
>>>> all elements "was always there, is, and will be."
>>>
>>> Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
>>> aetheric vibrations and electric forces.
>>>>
>>>> So you have finally admitted to being wrong.
>>>
>>> No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and
>>> e=mcc stuff.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Actually it has...
>>
>> I have invented this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime':
> 
> What is that?
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/ 
>> d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I wanted to put GR and QM into a single framework and thought, that
>> matter should be 'relative'.
> 
> Matter is mass and mass is standardised by units that are absolute.

'mass' is an attribute of material objects and is measured in kilograms.

This measure measures the amount of resistance against acceleration.

To call this measure 'matter' is insanely stupid.

>>
>> My idea is actually quite simple, but based upon unusual assumptions.
> 
> Sounds like Einstein. He claimed his work was simple and also based on
> assumptions

Usually you try to explain some observations and try to figuere out, how 
that came into existence.

To achieve this goal, you need to check all sorts of possibilities and 
choose the best finding.

This is then your assumption (for the first 'round').

Think about Sherlock Holmes and how he looks at a crime scene.

His first guess would be (say): it was the gardener!

Now he would check this assumption against the facts found at the crime 
scene.

If the test remains positive, he could take this as his assumption and 
procede from there.

Or he could find, it wasn't the gardner and he had to think about 
something else.

But always we start with some sort of guesswork and call that 'assumption'.

>> I use spacetime of GR as kind of 'background' and call 'timelike stable
>> patterns' 'matter'.
> 
> Patterns are not impacted by force so they are not mass or matter.

for a start:

It is my concept and I explain how it works!

If you don't like, then feel free to reject it.

>> Iow: matter for one observer is not matter for another observer.
> 
> That may be on aesthetic, gastronomic, emotional basis, yes. Not
> physics.

Well, possibly.

But I define what is physics in my idea, not you.

...

TH

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Dark  matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-19 12:15 +0000
  Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-19 21:01 +0200
    Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-20 08:01 +0200
      Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Patric Wojewódzki <jiid@oei.pl> - 2025-06-20 17:24 +0000
      Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-06-21 18:36 -0600
        Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-22 12:12 +0200
      Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-23 03:47 +0000
        Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-23 20:54 +0200
          Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-23 23:37 +0000
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-25 19:14 +0200
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 10:30 -0700
              Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-06-26 07:15 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-26 06:06 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-26 15:23 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Lon Mahankov <mklanh@amolmank.ru> - 2025-06-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 03:47 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:37 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:44 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:47 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 06:40 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 23:54 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 12:27 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:32 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 23:56 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 00:13 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-28 19:04 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 02:49 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-28 21:21 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 10:16 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:25 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 00:18 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 18:45 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 21:36 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 10:44 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:19 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-27 21:57 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Dekota Hamaev <te@etat.ru> - 2025-06-27 22:31 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 23:49 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-28 03:28 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 06:29 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 13:19 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 14:44 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-29 05:58 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 13:37 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-29 07:31 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-29 18:30 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Martino Krakowski <wwkoo@iiir.pl> - 2025-06-29 17:27 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 23:10 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-29 22:22 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 22:20 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-29 15:58 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-30 20:18 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-30 23:52 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 18:23 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-02 19:20 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-02 19:46 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 00:13 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-03 10:43 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 12:30 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-05 11:16 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Kerwin Baklanov <oanwan@waoanro.ru> - 2025-06-30 13:49 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 00:55 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 01:42 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-02 20:34 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 22:20 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 18:31 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 02:27 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 20:39 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 14:47 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-29 06:01 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:20 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:18 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-29 14:41 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 23:57 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-04 08:22 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 21:51 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Truman Agamov <rruaau@ar.ru> - 2025-07-04 22:00 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-05 09:44 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-05 09:32 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-08 09:30 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-10 23:32 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 14:06 +0000
          Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-06-24 10:48 +1000
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 01:41 +0000
          Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 06:20 +0000
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-06-24 08:51 +0100
              Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-24 08:41 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-06-24 11:26 +0100
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-24 10:43 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Krishna Abdulaev <la@vadalibh.ru> - 2025-06-24 17:55 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-25 00:22 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Reed Kawashima <ahhsa@kasir.jp> - 2025-06-25 13:28 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 23:46 +0000
  Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-06-29 12:26 +0800
    Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:42 +0000

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